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Loud Vehicle Legislation Across Canada
- Thread starter CanadianBiker
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There are bylaws that regulate things like mowing your lawn at ungodly hours. Wind your lawn mower up at 7:00am on a Saturday and you're likely to have a bylaw enforcement officer knocking on your door.
*EDIT* You haven't been able to ride through some few neighbourhoods, in Montreal, for better than 20 years now. I found this out the hard way, though fortunately without getting a ticket, back around '94.
Because the human ear registers sound logarithmically, not linearly.
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Im old, and your very late to the party. In the early '70s many small towns in Ontario, Milton where I live banned snowmobiles from the town limits. No riding your licensed and insured legal snow machine around town even in a blizzard. It hasn't been enforced in a couple decades because nobody remembers and all the idiots that rode around town at 3am, usually half in the bag went away. The old sno engines put up enough radio interference to wreck TV antenna signals, they were hated, and rode in packs and made a nuisance of them selves so they got the boot. And now its loud pipe on bike time, not like they haven't been threatening this for a couple years
I ride a cruiser with aftermarket pipes, they have a nice rumbling sound. I ride with jeans, T-shirt and a beanie, I have also been known to ride my bike with my left hand resting on my knee. Please forgive me. Contrary to some members' opinions a lot of cruiser owners do know how to ride. We know the limitations of our bikes and we're quite comfortable with twisties. We also know what our breaks are capable of. End *****.
I am also fully aware that if I'm revving my bike like a dumb *** through town, I'm liable to be pulled over, I can live with that. But if you're going to measure the decibel level of my bike, please also do something about the GO trains and the freight trains that run constantly throughout the GTHA. And worst yet do something about the ****ing construction sites that insist on starting work at 7am six days a week!
I am also fully aware that if I'm revving my bike like a dumb *** through town, I'm liable to be pulled over, I can live with that. But if you're going to measure the decibel level of my bike, please also do something about the GO trains and the freight trains that run constantly throughout the GTHA. And worst yet do something about the ****ing construction sites that insist on starting work at 7am six days a week!
CanadianBiker
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Unfortunately, everybody else has to live with your decision too.
Some noise is inevitable in populated areas and most people put up with it in exchange for the fact that said noise serves a greater purpose, e.g., the houses we live in were all built noisily, the trains bring people and goods the city needs, etc. Loud pipes on public roads exist solely to stoke the ego of the rider.
Yes, but the scale is difficult for people to understand, when they read 90 decibels is one noise source, and another is 100, they don't understand what that means.
This is why whenever you read articles about pipes and decibels, they have to take a paragraph to explain all this, why not just use a linear scale.
I don't think straight pipe riders realize that when they accelerate hard from a light, they can do hearing damage to pedestrians. Do they know this? Do they care?
As long as these laws are written in a way that they end up being enforced in a consistent fashion (and not with a cop sticking a decibel meter up someone's tailpipe), don't really have a problem with this.
A national standard would be best. Hell, we could adapt the EC approval system wholesale (while grandfathering in older bikes that have never had such exhausts available and never will).
While we're at it, maybe somebody can notice that the motorcycle industry is still self-regulating when it comes to emissions, and they're not doing a great job?
A national standard would be best. Hell, we could adapt the EC approval system wholesale (while grandfathering in older bikes that have never had such exhausts available and never will).
While we're at it, maybe somebody can notice that the motorcycle industry is still self-regulating when it comes to emissions, and they're not doing a great job?
Who's to judge what is a greater purpose, I ride my bike to work virtually every day. My going to work supports the economy and I manage a large group of people who supply the needs of many cities. So does that not allow me the same rights as a train or a construction site?
I think the idea behind emissions is completely butt**** stupid. Electric motor vehicles have been around for an extremely long time, from hydrogen fuel cells to whatever they're using now. While I've grown fond of the modern engine, its no doubt that somebody (gas companies sleeping with governments) is preventing the development of engines that use an alternate energy source. If they really care about emissions, make a new engine type!
CanadianBiker
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Society as whole judges, that's why we have laws, social norms, and mores. And while your contribution is laudable, it does not in itself generate undue noise. If you can figure out a way to hammer a nail or drive a train without making noise, great. In the meantime, those activities have no choice, but are still subject to restrictions so as to disturb as few people as possible.
There is simply no justification for riding a bike with loud pipes on public roads, at least none that serves anyone other than the rider, and for no other reason than self gratification. It's a form of aural masturbation.
Yup. I hope they get popular enough to reduce the "electric business margin" attached to all of them -_-
....or the government is going continue sleeping with the oil companies and slap regulations on the electric motors (again).
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After commuting everyday in a cage, I question if loud pipes DON'T save lives. While I'm constantly looking for motorcycles during lane changes (because we all know how fast SS bikes can accelerate), there have been times where I can hear a bike 100 meters (at least) behind me coming.
I understand that the sound is shooting the wrong way (behind) but you can hear them before you see 'em. I haven't had anyone pull a 13k rpm pass on me yet though...I'm curious to be on the receiving end of that one lol
It's close now, for commuters. If they can manage a real world 100+ miles on a charge then I might well buy. If so then I'll stick a hockey card on a clothespin through the spokes, and call it a day on the "loud pipes save lives" thing.
I keep meaning to take a test ride on a Zero, and just never seem to manage the time.
油井緋色;2205860 said:
Not all countries are thinking this way, while nothing about new technology in batteries will ever come from Canada, the US government is investing big in this research, but much more by China and Japan.
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