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You must really be missing some brain cells. What does posting videos of people being shot dead have to do with bring up your concern for Gaza?

I think ISIS is a real threat - gee.. should I post the 1 hr video of them decapitating Iraqi people here? No, if I wanted to do that I'd go to a forum that people visit for that kinds of stuff.
I think the person missing the cognitive ability to see the connection between a video posted about people dying in Gaza and being concerned about Gaza!

And more importantnly, i like how you completely dodges my question regarding threads being related to motorycles. Once again, when you opposed all the topics i mentioned above for being unrelated to motorcycle in an equal fashion, i will understand your point but until then, ill just assume you have personal ties to the Israeli side and their exposure is making you uncomfortable.

Again, people dont come here for Rob Ford or iPhone or Cancer treatments but there are threads like that all over this site.

p.s you can make your point while keeping a proper tone. We can all yell and scream and call each other everything but this is again, a public forum.
 
You must really be missing some brain cells. What does posting videos of people being shot dead have to do with bring up your concern for Gaza?

I think ISIS is a real threat - gee.. should I post the 1 hr video of them decapitating Iraqi people here? No, if I wanted to do that I'd go to a forum that people visit for that kinds of stuff.
I also did a quickunrelated7.jpg screen-cap for you and highlighted all the non-motorcycle related topics for you in just one page. Maybe you are more of a visual person than a reader.
Sorry about the bad quality. Max file size is 30kb
 
I also did a quick screen-cap for you and highlighted all the non-motorcycle related topics for you in just one page. Maybe you are more of a visual person than a reader.
Sorry about the bad quality. Max file size is 30kb

Look, I feel for the people in Gaza, I really do.. and I agree with bringing more awareness to it. However, there is no real reason to post a video of someone getting shot dead on a forum unless that forum is dedicated to such types of videos (hence my reference to 4chan/liveleak). No one (I speak generally here) want's to see that.

Apparently I'm the only one who feels this way. Anyway.

My $.02
 
Look, I feel for the people in Gaza, I really do.. and I agree with bringing more awareness to it. However, there is no real reason to post a video of someone getting shot dead on a forum unless that forum is dedicated to such types of videos (hence my reference to 4chan/liveleak). No one (I speak generally here) want's to see that.

Apparently I'm the only one who feels this way. Anyway.

My $.02

Like i said before, if you object to all non motorcycle related threads, then you have a valid point by saying this site shoud ONLY be for motorcycle related topics.

I just see people posting all kinds of random threads which are IMO (and i think most would agree) much less urgent than over 650 people being killed in a week.

I also agree with you that its not pleasant to watch which is why i mentioned it twice in the caption. But i also think it is extremely important to bring awareness to such issues. Specially since in this case, Palestinians have no tangible support in the world except for the power of public opinion while Israel has the support of all media and almost all powerful governments (not nations)

So while its not motorcycle related, i think if we can talk for hours about iphones, its important to shed light on these murdered innocent civilians (80% of the dead were civilians and over a 100 children).

They have no voice and no way so tell their story so i think those of us who can, should speak up. After all, we are all human.

Also, not that it should make much of a difference but im a non-Arab atheist who staunchly opposes all organized religions so i have no personal ties to this, other than i can put myself in their shoes.

Hope we can find some common ground on this.
 
I think what Dresden is trying to say but not quite doing so is that this site is heavily moderated and censored to make it 'family friendly'. Word filters prevent us from saying ****, ****, or *******, and any inappropriate images would also be quickly removed, but for some reason you think a video of people getting shot is okay for a family friendly website?

Myself, I don't care either way. I am not easily offended or disgusted, but I can understand that some people that like this forum for its heavy censorship would not appreciate videos of people getting killed posted here.
 
[video=youtube;hrlUzkd8Z8g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrlUzkd8Z8g[/video]
 
I really can't understand why the hamas shoot those rockets. They are ridiculously ineffective, and they bring serious retaliation. I guess they want to make noise, but it's just stupid. Anyways I have a credit card, RRSPs and aiming to get a mortgage sometime in the future... can't comment further.
 
What kind of animals hide their weapons in a school and other highly populated areas knowing that even if those expensive weapons are destroyed they will gain an even more potent weapon of propaganda at the expense of their own children?

Stop making excuses for these blood thirsty savages.
 
In their effort to avoid detection by the Israeli military, Hamas militants in Gaza have employed tactics including traveling in ambulances, hiding in hospitals, dressing up in Israeli army uniforms, concealing rockets in United Nations schools, concealing tunnel entrances near mosques and using animals for suicide missions.
Here’s a survey of Hamas’ top 10 duplicitous tactics:
• Using ambulances as getaway cars
The Israel Defense Forces posted video online it said showed two Palestinian militants entering an ambulance as they left a building being tracked by the IDF.
In the video, a third person wearing what appeared to be a medical worker’s white coat suggested that Hamas militants are either dressing as medical personnel to avoid detection or that Gaza medical workers are providing them direct aid. It should be noted that Hamas runs the health ministry in Gaza. The tactic worked; the IDF let the ambulance drive off unharmed.
• Setting up headquarters at Gaza’s main hospital
Reporters on the ground in Gaza have pointed out that Hamas is using Gaza’s main Shifa Hospital as its headquarters. The Washington Post reported July 17 that the Gaza City hospital “has become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices.”
The Post reported the next day that Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zouhri spoke to reporters “standing in front of” the hospital.
Wall Street Journal correspondent Nick Casey posted a photo on Twitter of a Hamas spokesman being interviewed on camera at Shifa Hospital.
“You have to wonder w[ith] the shelling how patients at Shifa hospital feel as Hamas uses it as a safe place to see media,” Casey tweeted July 21. He later removed the tweet and the photo. The Jewish American website the Algemeiner posted an article with a screenshot of the photo before it was removed:


Image source: Algemeiner

• Using mosques to hide rockets
A Washington Post correspondent on June 17 saw Palestinian militants hiding rockets in a Gaza mosque. The Post reported that during a five-hour humanitarian ceasefire last week, “a group of men at a mosque in northern Gaza said they had returned to clean up the green glass from windows shattered in the previous day’s bombardment. But they could be seen moving small rockets into the mosque.”
• Using mosques to protect tunnel entrances
The IDF posted an aerial photo it said showed the spot between a mosque and a school where the entrance to a tunnel was concealed. Hamas has built a network of sophisticated tunnels allowing armed gunmen to sneak into Israel from underground. During one Hamas tunnel attack that was thwarted, the IDF said the militants were armed with handcuffs and tranquilizers, suggesting they were aiming to kidnap Israelis.
Hamas knows the international outcry that would ensue were Israel to bomb a mosque, so it found in the house of worship one of the safest hiding places it could for storing its ordnance and breaking ground for its tunnels.
• Using United Nations schools to hide rockets
For the second time in one week, the United Nations Relief Works Agency, which provides services to Palestinians claiming refugee status, admitted that Hamas had been hiding rockets in its schools.
In its second announcement Tuesday night, UNRWA said it had discovered a hidden rocket cache in a vacant school. The agency said the school in which the rockets were found happens to be situated between two other UNRWA schools that are currently housing 3,000 Palestinians who have fled their homes.
“UNRWA strongly and unequivocally condemns the group or groups responsible for this flagrant violation of the inviolability of its premises under international law,” the agency said in a statement.
While the agency put out an official statement, UNRWA’s chief spokesman in Gaza, Chris Gunness, did not immediately post the news on his very active Twitter account; the agency and its spokesman have been accused by Israel supporters of promoting the Palestinian narrative.
• Dressing up as Israeli soldiers
Two squads of heavily armed Hamas gunmen infiltrated Israel through a network of tunnels with the suspected aim of attacking a nearby Israeli community on Monday. In an ensuing gunfight with the IDF, all 10 terrorists were killed as well as four Israeli soldiers. The IDF later said that all of the Hamas militants were disguised as Israeli soldiers, wearing exact replicas of IDF uniforms, from their head coverings down to their kneepads and standard issue military boots. Some were also wearing explosives-packed suicide vests.
This footage from the IDF shows the bodies with the full IDF attire:
• Dressing up as women
Correspondent Janis Mackey Frayer of Canada’s CTV News tweeted July 20 that she saw a Palestinian gunman in Gaza dressed as a woman, complete with Islamic headscarf.
Her message has been retweeted more than 650 times.
• Swaddling weapons in baby blankets
A reporter for Canada’s Globe and Mail newspaper also reported about militants dressed as women, but with a major twist: During the short truce on Sunday, several armed Palestinians were seen scurrying from the scene, some wearing women’s clothes, one disguising a gun as a baby.
“Some bore their weapons openly, slung over their shoulder, but at least two, disguised as women, were seen walking off with weapons partly concealed under their robes. Another had his weapon wrapped in a baby blanket and held on his chest as if it were an infant,” the Globe and Mail reported.
• Using donkeys as suicide bombers
Hamas on July 18 sent a donkey laden with explosives toward an IDF position in Gaza, the IDF said.
Britain’s Telegraph newspaper described the suicide mission as “one of the most unconventional tactics yet seen in the fighting in Gaza.”
The troops said they were forced to open fire on the animal before it reached them.
“They used this donkey as a human shield, or an animal shield, if you like,” Israeli army spokesman Major Arye Shalicar said. “Anything, an animal or an international building, that can help make use of innocent people or international [citizens], they will use it. We see it time and again.”


• Planting attack tunnel entrances in private homes
The Globe has reported on the network of concrete tunnels Hamas has spent years digging with the express purpose of using them to kill and kidnap Israelis.
The Washington Post reported that Hamas is believed to have invested more than $1 million into excavating and maintaining each tunnel. The IDF has so far uncovered several dozen such tunnels, some of which span more than a mile. Compare this with the poverty of the Gaza Strip which has a per capital income of about $1,165, according to the Post.
The IDF tweeted this photo on Wednesday showing what it said was the entrance to a tunnel found hidden in a Gaza home:
Given Hamas’ dedication to planting its war machine among civilians, houses of worship, medical facilities and schools, Israel faces a major challenge in dismantling the infrastructure without incurring large Palestinian casualties.
Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer on Tuesday addressed the issue at the Christians United for Israel summit.
“Some are shamelessly accusing Israel of genocide and would put us in the dock for war crimes,” Dermer said, according to the Times of Israel. “But the truth is that the Israeli Defense Forces should be given the Nobel Peace Prize … a Nobel Peace Prize for fighting with unimaginable restraint.”
“I especially will not tolerate criticism of my country at a time when Israeli soldiers are dying so that innocent Palestinians can live,” Dermer added, referring to the military ground operation which places Israeli soldiers in direct risk due to the challenge of bombing Hamas sites from the air without taking down the nearby mosques, schools and hospitals in which they are hidden.
 
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It is sad that most of the people I know under 40 cannot help but to get their opinions from the Jon Stewart show.
 
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Pretty sure that if Hamas had it's weapons and paraphenalia supplied by someone like the US military there'd be no room to put them in the basement of a hospital. There would be tanks vs tanks instead of organised and heavily armed military vs guerrilas/terrorists/whatever you want to call them. Not defending Hamas here at all but to say that it's only Hamas committing the atrocities is not correct.
 
I'm just gonna leave aside any moral questions for the moment and toss a lone fact in here.

Opinion surveys in the US show that Israel is perilously close to losing favour with American Jews - and the divide is pretty clearly generational. Young American Jews who support Israel are clearly outnumbered by young American Jews who don't.

Take that for whatever it's worth.
 
Pretty sure that if Hamas had it's weapons and paraphenalia supplied by someone like the US military there'd be no room to put them in the basement of a hospital. There would be tanks vs tanks instead of organised and heavily armed military vs guerrilas/terrorists/whatever you want to call them. Not defending Hamas here at all but to say that it's only Hamas committing the atrocities is not correct.

How would Canada feel if another country/organization were to publicly state that its goal is for your country's utter destruction? HAMAS leaders and their charter specifies the destruction of Israel! Would any country sit back and wait until further damage is done?
 
Funny how the western media continues to say that, but has no video evidence of these rockets going or hitting anything. Sad that most of the western countires has their heads shoved so far up Israel a-s!

And no, I don't hate the Jews for who they are, but do hate them for what they are doing while putting a smile on their faces. Not to mention they are putting the world economy into the brink of another collapse. Look up Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen. When it does happen again, I won't be the only one hating on them.


I really can't understand why the hamas shoot those rockets. They are ridiculously ineffective, and they bring serious retaliation. I guess they want to make noise, but it's just stupid. Anyways I have a credit card, RRSPs and aiming to get a mortgage sometime in the future... can't comment further.
 
no video evidence of these rockets going or hitting anything.

It's always prudent to wait till you get a bullet in the head when people are shooting at you before you start shooting back.

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Perhaps the rockets might subside if the zionists would stop building illegal settlements on the slivers of land the Palestinians still have left.

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You're telling me if you were Palestinian and your parents and grandparents lived through this invasion, you wouldn't pick up whatever weapons you could and fight the occupiers? I'd hide the rockets under my own kid's bed if I had to.
 
Nuke em all and let god sort em out.
#merica
 
This is for those who keep using the word HAMAS as some kind of justification for 6 decades of genocide... Here is Dr. Ron Paul for those who still buy the BS the western media feed them about Hamas clockorange style!
Those who justify 66 years of land grab, ethnic cleansing and a full on state of apartheid by gargling Hamas! Hamas didnt exist when Israel started stealing land. Hamas is much younger than the idea of Zionism and a state of APARTHEID (as Nelson Mandella called it) called Israel. Learn your history before you throw words you dont know much about. Parroting FOX news in itself shows how much you know about the world around you. If thats your source, then theres not much to argue here. But youll find this clip interesting on Hamas and thet word being your excise for justifying decades of man slaughter and genocide by Israel. Remember, hamas is only a few years old while this whole thing started in 1947

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152616249410910
 
Also, more on Western Media and those who's entire source or world information is the Associated Press[video=youtube;K9KDhsFFfGU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9KDhsFFfGU[/video].

Here is Natanyahu on how easy it is to MANIPULATE THE WESTERN MEDIA.
 
ashkan, I'm gonna say to you what I say to some friends of mine.

If you feel the need to validate your beliefs by getting on a soapbox and screaming them to the world, pick up a rifle and fight. Otherwise enjoy your freedoms in Canada and keep your beliefs private.
 
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