Riding with No Front Brakes

hedo2002 said:

This was my thought too you have been watching too many episodes of CSI to think that the lab is going to say "nope the oil you gave us is a different blend then the stuff that you got out of the crankcase".

Even if for a second they were able to determine it there would be contamination form your crankcase of the oil that was in there before, making it even less likely to be definitive.

Now lets say the lab works miracles and says the oil samples provided by YOU are different. What then?? If you confront the dealership do you think they are going to admit they overfilled it? If I were the service manager I would simply say how the hel* do I know where you got the oil from you could have bought two types and now your going to try to blame us? Or are you going to break into the dealership after hours and draw an oil sample from their bulk tank to be analyzed too?? LOL

Forget the whole lab thing, and just confront the service manager with the issues you had POST service and see what they are willing to do.

I had a small shop recently install tires on my bike, I picked the bike up rode it home and then the next morning to work. I went to go to the store on brake and I hear a clunk and a strange feeling when applying front brake. same issue the never tightened the caliper bolts back on. The one bolt had worke3d completely out but a reflector bracket kept it on the bike and the other was about 3/4 ways out. I tightened it all up, (it was a SUnday) I callede the shop monday the owner was away so i Called Tuesday told him what happened and I would be later that day. I went in they checked everything and torqued it, then he then "compensated" me and apologized profusely. He also thanked me for bringing it to his attention so he could deal with the tech involved, (obviously he wasn't pleased as it is him who would have been liable had I crashed, and he acknowledged it was a SERIOUS error for the tech.

I was satisfied and that is why the story and the shops name never appeared on GTAM..lol

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kiwi said:

Hmm sounds like it was one of the BMW dealerships.. I personally would only trust Budds BMW in Oakville. Their service team are great. Wouldn't go near Toronto BMW.. Just my opinion.. Based on mine and other people's experiences.

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CafeRay said:

Oil analysis won't tell you anything.
Too much oil will just get blown out of the crankcase to a breather tube that used to exit down to the road, but now must exit into the intake airbox to allow the oil to burn through the intake.
Enough oil, and the filter will get wet and the oil/air/gas mix won't burn right giving you the stumble. It may have damaged the MAF sensor as well.

Your intake airbox likely has oil in it.
Whoever filled the crankcase just dumped in two bottles without measuring.

If you look at the air filter and you see oil in the filter or the box, that's all the proof you need it was overfilled.

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unL33T said:

Unfortunately I've had to make it a habit of doing my own little check over the bike after it gets serviced anywhere. Seems anywhere I go mechanics forget to tighten stuff down or completely forget parts on their bench. I've gotten a bike back with the TPS sensor disconnected, front fairing stay loose and the whole front end bouncing around, passenger seat not bolted down, switches/buttons hanging by the wires, lights not connected, idle adjusted all wrong, etc.

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CafeRay said:

If you can spot all that, then you can do the work yourself and do it right.

This "I get everything done at the dealer" thing is new, used to be bikes were 99% service by owners.

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unL33T said:

Those weren't all noticed on the same visit (although many of them were). If I had a garage I WOULD do it myself. It's frustrating that I go to shops for convenience and knowledge and most of the time I get neither.

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emtoem said:

Seriously, what's the story with Budd's? Even when I bought my bike 12-years ago at McBride's, the people picking their bikes up after me said if I ever need service, go to Budd's in Oakville. Only problem is that I live really far away from them but it appears my options are very limited right now.

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