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State funerals

Do you agree with taxpayers paying for a state funeral

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 19.4%

  • No

    Votes: 29 80.6%
  • Total voters
    36
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So Jack Layton's funeral cost the taxpayers $368,000 +
Now Jim Flaherty also received a state funeral at a cost that no one yet knows.

Do you agree with this practice? Spending almost half a million on a funeral for politicians? Justified or just another way to waste our money...
 
While a sad event and everyone deserves a decent funeral I don't see them dishing that out for the avg Joe. I can't see a justification for tax dollars paying for it. They won't pay for mine.
 
Compete waste of time and money.... Bury the guy and let him rest him in peace..... On a side note.... What happens to the body of a person who had no money and no friends and family.... Does the govt foot the bill? Grave or cremation?

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I'm sure Flaherty is a great guy, but seeing how politicians lie & cheat they are no hero. I wonder if Generals get a state funeral?

I bet not

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I dunno....in this case i dont have a problem with it.

In the end, where did all that $$$ get spent on? Goods and services in the local community. If the government will spend their tax money i'd rather it go like that locally vs, billions spent on crony backroom deals that just end up in coffers of multibillion dollar corporations and doesnt trickle down to the everyday joe.
 
It must be a popularity contest because not everybody gets one. I hope Bev Oda makes the cut. That would kick the economy off to a roiling boil.
 
Think the savings on his pension vs widow pension should cover the cost of the funeral easily. Unless of course they pay out 100% for widow, i'm not educated on that but i'm pretty sure its always less.
 
A quick google search found that there are roughly 14,000,000 taxpaying individuals in Canada. 368,000/14,000,000 = 2.6 cents per Canadian taxpayer for the funeral. Totally worth it for a man who was finance minister as we went through recessions, a man who created the TFSA, and someone who was very well liked in politics from all sides of the spectrum.
 
Any funeral is a good funeral? No? basicfunerals.ca


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HDRod said:
A quick google search found that there are roughly 14,000,000 taxpaying individuals in Canada. 368,000/14,000,000 = 2.6 cents per Canadian taxpayer for the funeral. Totally worth it for a man who was finance minister as we went through recessions, a man who created the TFSA, and someone who was very well liked in politics from all sides of the spectrum.
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agree its a small price to pay for his contribution, we waste way more $ in worse ways.
 
HDRod said:
A quick google search found that there are roughly 14,000,000 taxpaying individuals in Canada. 368,000/14,000,000 = 2.6 cents per Canadian taxpayer for the funeral. Totally worth it for a man who was finance minister as we went through recessions, a man who created the TFSA, and someone who was very well liked in politics from all sides of the spectrum.
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With that kind of money you can feed almost 25,000 people at an all you can eat buffet @ 15$ a person. Considering the fact that almost 30K people are homeless per night in canada i think that would have been a much better use of our tax dollars than a show for one man. But i guess being a "liked politician" matters more...
 
HDRod said:
A quick google search found that there are roughly 14,000,000 taxpaying individuals in Canada. 368,000/14,000,000 = 2.6 cents per Canadian taxpayer for the funeral. Totally worth it for a man who was finance minister as we went through recessions, a man who created the TFSA, and someone who was very well liked in politics from all sides of the spectrum.
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No problem with state funerals per se but wonder about the attitude that it's chump change per taxpayer. I believe that's exactly the type of rational that frees the stewards of our money at all levels of government and their departments to chip away.................I'm sure if you divide all Ontario taxpayers into a billion $ it's not unduly burdensome either.
 
Of course if it's a state funeral then it's gotta be paid for with our taxes by definition. The question should be whether he should have received a state funeral, or Layton for that matter.

I'm not sure. On one hand, they were both very recently in office when they died, both very well known, and both very well respected. But on the other hand it seems to me there's a sort of bracket creep in the mourning business. More and more deceased seem to get bigger and greater funerals because people are afraid of not showing the proper amount of respect.

You guys already know how I feel about funeral processions in general. It's just silliness. I don't think the police should escort any funeral unless that person's death made the news. If society in general doesn't give a flying flip about the guy in the hearse, he shouldn't be ceremonially paraded through public streets. Otherwise, fine. Let the general population pay their respects. Then the next level after that would be important public servants like Layton and Flaherty according to the standards I mentioned above, who get the whole 21 gun salute and parade and blah blah blah. Maybe.

But hey if you think you can get Pizza Pizza or Nike to sponsor funerals for heads of state instead, have at it.
 
why have state funerals in the first place......why are they more important than any other citizen

concerning jim flaherty - he was a good finance minister - but it was a job he was chosen for and was fairly compensated
 
noor said:
why have state funerals in the first place......why are they more important than any other citizen

concerning jim flaherty - he was a good finance minister - but it was a job he was chosen for and was fairly compensated
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This. It doesn't matter what I do in life, or how well I do it. My loved ones pay for my funeral. I don't see any reason why my taxes should pay that amount for any funeral, it's obscene.


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HDRod said:
A quick google search found that there are roughly 14,000,000 taxpaying individuals in Canada. 368,000/14,000,000 = 2.6 cents per Canadian taxpayer for the funeral. Totally worth it for a man who was finance minister as we went through recessions, a man who created the TFSA, and someone who was very well liked in politics from all sides of the spectrum.
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Wasnt he paid a salary to those things?
 
noor said:
why have state funerals in the first place......why are they more important than any other citizen

concerning jim flaherty - he was a good finance minister - but it was a job he was chosen for and was fairly compensated
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Yup, I'm pretty good at my job too. Does that mean I get a state funeral?
 
A statesman is usually a politician, diplomat or other notable figure who has had a long and respected career at the national or international level. I'm also ok at my job but grudgingly recognize that a federal finance ministers' influence cuts a wider swath. I'm not ready to throw state funerals under the bus. What's next, dissing the Queen?
 
Meh, I don't think it's that big of a deal... if it went to local businesses, especially those that needed it badly, then it's all good.
 
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