Q was the first stunter I saw do a 12 o clock at the hersey center back in 2003 I think or earlier. it was the sickest thing to see with my own eyes someone scrap a 12 bar and ride a slow wheelie. What about the other crews? rode dawgs Glen, paul and china, jr, mad max? still riding? hope no injuries have stopped them from riding. And the 3 white boys from stuntas inc? they were killing it! one of them had fur on his bike and a funny helmet lol.