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    Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    One question to all who are licensed auto tech who do safety for used cars.

    Is having a spare tire mandatory for all vehicle to pass safety?

    I know vehicle with runflats definitely don't need spares.

    Any input would help!! Thanks
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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    Yes...
    You need a spare tire to pass a safety test.
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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    Im actually pretty sure you don't. I believe they only check the wheels that are currently on the Axles. My Camaro for instance doesn't even have a spare tire, there is no room in the trunk.


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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    How about cars sold with run flat tires and sealant based repair kits? Don't see how no spare tire is a safety issue (other then being stranded somewhere)

    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/201..._tires_120227/

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...208546170.html

    http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun...tires-20110620
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Manhattan View Post
    Im actually pretty sure you don't. I believe they only check the wheels that are currently on the Axles. My Camaro for instance doesn't even have a spare tire, there is no room in the trunk.
    Are the tire run flats? My MINI came with run flats, so no spare tire.

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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    how does not having a spare tire compromise the safety of the car? sounds absurd to me.

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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    Weird...
    I just looked on the back of a safety certificate...

    Item #
    33) Tires
    34) Wheels - rims and fasteners
    36) Fifth wheel (truck-tractor)

    I remember selling a car before and the car didn't have a spare/jack.
    The mechanic told me it was part of safety and wouldn't issue a certificate unless we got it.
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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    Quote Originally Posted by imnothng View Post
    Are the tire run flats? My MINI came with run flats, so no spare tire.
    Nah it comes with a patch and air kit.


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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    A can of fix a flat is good enough if you don't have a spare regardless if the vehicle has run flats or not. A Corvette Z06 comes from the factory with regular tires and a can of sealant.

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    I would think not. I thought they were eliminating spares from cars. Would a bike not need one? The safety is the same, I think.

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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    no, you dont need a spare tire to pass a safety,.

    pretty sure you dont even need an engine., as crazy as that sounds

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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    you dont.

    theres a checklist floating around on the internet of what exactly the safety points are.
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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    some of the weird ones are you need a workign sun-visor

    you cant have any vehicle trim hanging off the car.

    your rear defrost must work


    but you dont need an engine to pass a safety lol

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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    I always thought you did but cannot say for sure. Obviously run flats etc. would be an exception.

    Push comes to shove any random spare would likely work, are they going to make sure it is the same bolt pattern???

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    Quickly scanned the safety regulations, nothing about a spare tire that I see

    http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/reg...0611_e.htm#BK8
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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    You do not need a spare tire to pass a safety. The tires mounted on the vehicle must meet minimum tread depth requirements, not have cuts / cracks in the sidewalls, bulges or belt separations.

    As a note to the comment above, the safety standards don't state specifically that the engine must be in place but do require that the motor mounts be in good condition. The vehicle needs to be tested to ensure that the brakes will stop the vehicle when in motion and the power steering needs to function. Without the engine running power assisted brakes and steering cannot be tested - therefore a method of propelling the vehicle and powering these systems needs to be in place.
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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?



    this is the back of the SSC.

    you are correct in stating that without a car running, you cannot check power assisted brakes.

    however, not all cars have power assisted brakes.
    i can name a ******** of cars that dont have power steering or power brakes.

    just as it states that for motorcycles, you must check the chain and guards.

    not all bikes have chains, do they ? lol

    you can pass a safety without a motor

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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    I myself thought the spare was needed to pass safety, I guess not.

    Relief!! I signed a certificate to a car without the spare.

    Thanks all for your inputs!!
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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    LoL... Couldn't you just call the MTO and ask?
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    Re: Spare tire needed for Safety Certificate in Ontario?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinster81 View Post
    I myself thought the spare was needed to pass safety, I guess not.

    Relief!! I signed a certificate to a car without the spare.

    Thanks all for your inputs!!
    Ummmm, you're signing safeties and you don't know what's required???

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