im looking to put frame slider on my 636 any idea where to look?

**kevin4uc** · 06-27-2009, 02:12 PM

i guess im going to get the motovation and i have to cut the faring little bit .

**suprPHREAK** · 06-28-2009, 11:50 AM

it is actually very easy, had some on my 05 636. and good set will come with a centre punch that you mount in the bolt hole. just mount your fairing and push down, this will mark the centre of the hole you need to cut. then use a dremel to make it bigger and bigger until the slider base just fits through. if you do it right, you wont even see the hole behind the slider.

**fresh02guy** · 06-28-2009, 11:03 PM

Some advice on cutting the fairings.

1) Take your time and cut little by little
2) Put masking tape on the area you are cutting. It will prevent the paint from chipping on the edge where you are cutting. I learned this half way through so one side had a perfect clean cut and the other had small paint chips around the edge.

**kevin4uc** · 06-29-2009, 01:20 AM

guys to be honest with you i really dont want to cut the faring so im going with no cut one. what do u think about these two?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OES-F...1%7C240%3A1318
i want no cut

**kellen** · 06-29-2009, 10:31 AM

no cuts offer little to no protection and are only as strong as the flimsy offset bracket.

**Comrade Yeti** · 06-29-2009, 07:03 PM

I typed a nice long reply and the wifi ate it. Don't be cheap, do it the right way, get proper sliders.

**kevin4uc** · 06-29-2009, 11:06 PM

the funny thing is i went to Kahuna, my friend is working there. what he told me is Dont waste ur money on frame slider they dont do anything if you go down. but i just want to do it and no there is no way that i want to make holes in the faring. i want no cut faring so if u guys wanna help then help me with what i want, i heard your idea about it no if you have any link or any thing for no cut one plz let me know
thanks in advance

**kellen** · 06-29-2009, 11:37 PM

no cut suxs lol srsly

**BusaBob** · 06-30-2009, 12:08 AM

frame sliders do help.

In a serious high speed crash, nothing is gonna save the bike.

Where frame sliders earn their bread-n-butter is in the slow speed lowside or the tip over. In these situations, without the sliders, you run the risk of costly fairing damage, or worse, a dent in the frame itself. The frame is not solid aluminum. It's hollow and the aluminum in the walls can dent in a tip over or a slow speed low side (or high side for that matter). so for the relatively inexpensive cost of the sliders, you help minimize that risk.

But it's your bike, and so it's your choice. If you just want them for "looks" then get whatever you like. If you want them to actually protect the bike, don't get the no-cut sliders unless the bracket is designed to be very sturdy, and the mounting bolt connects the a strong part of the frame (usually at an engine mounting point).

I've seen 2 examples of very strong no-cut sliders. One was by R&G IIRC and made for the SV650. It stood up to a tip over very well. nor fairing damage, only light scuffs. Another was for the Hayabusa, but I only read reviews for it. Both mounted by means of a strong bar that connected one side of the bike to the other, through the engine at it's mounting points in the frame. Both had brackets made of thick aluminum (or steel, can't remember, sorry, but i was a pretty beefy piece)

**BusaBob** · 06-30-2009, 12:48 AM

Here's an example of a sturdy offset bracket used on the SV650, by R&G:

Now THAT is strong. It's not some flimsy tab that will break in a crash.

if you're worried about cutting, have a professional do it. I had motovation sliders installed by Z1 Cycletech on my previous '05 636 and the installed looked very clean, OEM clean.

as for the sliders you referenced:

this one won't protect your frame, let alone any fairings as it's too low, too short, and looks like it's meant to be used without the fairing for the 636:

this pic isn't even of an '05 ZX636, and it's on the right side, the side that doesn't even need cutting (the '05 ZX636 only needs the fairing cut on the left side):

these eBay sliders have the dreadded off-set tab bracket. It looks like it might be sturdy, but that tab could break. It doesn't look anywhere near as sturdy as the bracket for the SV650 seen above

This offset tab bracket looks even more flimsy compared to the one above:

And finally, the Shoguns you linked to are not even for a 2005 ZX636 (they're for 1998-2004 models) and as such, have no way of offsetting the left slider to save you from cutting the fairing:

Even the R&G model for you bike will require you to cut a small hole in the left fairing:

IMHO, the Motorvation sliders really are the best ones you should be looking at:

http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore...p?idproduct=41

2005-06 Kawasaki ZX6R / 636 Frame and Swingarm Sliders and Accessories
The race frame sliders fit directly onto the engine mounting/support brackets of your Kawasaki ZX6R or 636 without modification to the frame. Frame sliders have machined aluminum inserts that fit snugly into the recessed part of the frame of the Kawasaki ZX636 ZX6R Ninja for maximum strength and impact force distribution. Some minor fairing trimming is required on the left side.

right side:

left side:

**BusaBob** · 06-30-2009, 01:23 AM

but if you really want to protect the fairings, get a crash cage like the stunters use.

I think Johnny636 sells them, and the Ingenuity cage was showcased on Superbikes!

**caboose483** · 06-30-2009, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by kevin4uc

the funny thing is i went to Kahuna, my friend is working there. what he told me is Dont waste ur money on frame slider they dont do anything if you go down. but i just want to do it and no there is no way that i want to make holes in the faring. i want no cut faring so if u guys wanna help then help me with what i want, i heard your idea about it no if you have any link or any thing for no cut one plz let me know
thanks in advance

IMHO your friend is an idiot.

My 10 has Champs Industries sliders on it, the beefiest of all beefcake sliders and it has been crashed at least 6 times. My most recent unscheduled dismount this weekend resulted in a broken shift linkage and clip on and a bit of rash on the bodywork.. No damage to case covers, tank, rad, frame, etc and i pitched it HARD. My collar bone didn't escape as lucky but i'll heal.

**CBRJOHN** · 06-30-2009, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by suprPHREAK

I'm confused, what are you trying to say?

Originally Posted by kevin4uc

he has no idea what he is talking about.
if u dont know something for sure u dont need to leave a comment.

Actually,, Recip likely has a real good idea since he probably has more crashing experience at race speeds than anyone else on the forum

**kevin4uc** · 06-30-2009, 06:39 PM

Thanks for the details i mean all of you guys i guess my friend is really an idiot.

Originally Posted by BusaBob