Can I carry a rifle on a motorcycle?

[Rob MacLennan]

The minimum non - restricted barrel length for a semi - auto centerfire rifle is 470mm, or 18.5", with a minimum overall length of 660mm.

Even if it were an SKS with a 16.5" barrel, it'd still be restricted - and prohibited if it had been shortened from the stock 20.5" barrel.

Interesting. I'll have to look that up then because when I wanted to buy a Ruger PC9 carbine a few years back, I was told that its 16.25" barrel was exactly 1/4" too short to qualify for unrestricted status.

[Smokeandapancake]

Read the last sentence. You are not 100% correct. I wrote, keep the firearm out of plain view (or as the RCMP calls it out of sight) and attach a secure locking device. The RCMP consider a trigger lock or a cable lock a secure locking device. So my sentence was not wrong, there is just two methods to secure a unattended firearm. You can choose your trunk, but what do you do if you don't have a trunk, say like in my Jeep or my motorcycle?
Leaving Any Class of Firearm in an Unattended Vehicle

• Lock non-restricted firearms and locked containers carrying restricted or prohibited firearms in the trunk or in a similar lockable compartment.

• If the vehicle does not have a trunk or lockable compartment, put firearms and firearm containers out of sight inside the vehicle and lock the vehicle.

• If you are in a remote wilderness area and cannot lock your non-restricted firearms inside your vehicle, unload them and put them out of sight. Attach a secure locking device unless they are needed for predator control.

Pulled from:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...posage-eng.htm

Ummm ya ok if you are in a remote wilderness area and cannot loci your non restricted inside your vehicle. They are talking about in a hunting camp scenario or similar.

So yes, your original statement which implied a non-res had to be trigger locked when left unattended in a vehicle is wrong.

[kramer]

Interesting. I'll have to look that up then because when I wanted to buy a Ruger PC9 carbine a few years back, I was told that its 16.25" barrel was exactly 1/4" too short to qualify for unrestricted status.

Whoever told you that was full of it, or you just don't remember right... the length is 18.5"

[Rob MacLennan]

Whoever told you that was full of it, or you just don't remember right... the length is 18.5"

I checked it and you're absolutely right; 18.5". This was quite a while back though.

[verno317]

If people feel threatened by a cased out of sight firearm, perhaps they should stay indoors.

The same could be said about people that are afraid of bears.

[mat2312]

The same could be said about people that are afraid of bears.

Only if they're unarmed

[verno317]

Arming yourself with some common sense in bear country will go a lot further towards keeping you safe than a firearm. Besides, transporting a dead and dressed bear on a bike would be a messy undertaking.

[mat2312]

Arming yourself with some common sense in bear country will go a lot further towards keeping you safe than a firearm. Besides, transporting a dead and dressed bear on a bike would be a messy undertaking.

I agree that common sense is key, i'm still more comfortable with a firearm in remote areas, especially camping with my family.


Who said anything about transporting the bear? I'd report it to the MNR and either let them take the pelt or the birds can pick at it. It was shot in self defense, not hunting.

[Angus Argyle]

I agree that common sense is key, i'm still more comfortable with a firearm in remote areas, especially camping with my family.


Who said anything about transporting the bear? I'd report it to the MNR and either let them take the pelt or the birds can pick at it. It was shot in self defense, not hunting.

Is that how it works. I always heard (for example) that if you hit a deer with your car, you are responsible for it and can't just leave it at the side of the road.

However, I don't have any actual knowledge of any of this, just interested because it was brought up.

[Smokeandapancake]

Incorrect about road kill. Leave it right there if you want.

[BusaBob]

Is that how it works. I always heard (for example) that if you hit a deer with your car, you are responsible for it and can't just leave it at the side of the road.

However, I don't have any actual knowledge of any of this, just interested because it was brought up.

About the deer, road kill is roadkill. someone will usually take it though, at the very least MTO will dispose of it (I believe)

You're only responsible for the meat if you hunt it deliberate, I believe.

[phantom]

From the MNR hunting regs.

If you wish to keep the animals referenced below that have been killed by natural or other accidental causes including road kills, you must report the acquisition to the ministry. In the case of black bear, moose, deer, elk and caribou, you must report the acquisition to a ministry office immediately.

So if you're gonna keep it you've got to report it. (legally)

[Angus Argyle]

Incorrect about road kill. Leave it right there if you want.

About the deer, road kill is roadkill. someone will usually take it though, at the very least MTO will dispose of it (I believe)

You're only responsible for the meat if you hunt it deliberate, I believe.

You are both wise in the ways of road-kill. Thanks..

[Angus Argyle]

From the MNR hunting regs.

If you wish to keep the animals referenced below that have been killed by natural or other accidental causes including road kills, you must report the acquisition to the ministry. In the case of black bear, moose, deer, elk and caribou, you must report the acquisition to a ministry office immediately.

So if you're gonna keep it you've got to report it. (legally)

This is interesting. If you want to hunt out of season, just shoot the damn thing, drag it in front of your car and hit it.

You can always say you shot it because it was suffering.

** going to get gun **

[BusaBob]

hahaha...you can try, but i don't think it'll fly.

besides, the MNR boys have a lower burden of proof than the criminal justice courts, and they can just about seize the shirt off your back including your vehicle, and gun if they thought you weren't being straight with them.

[verno317]

Who said anything about transporting the bear? I'd report it to the MNR and either let them take the pelt or the birds can pick at it. It was shot in self defense, not hunting.

You aren't likely to get caught or charged even if you didn't report it. I just figured you were a hunter is all.

[Smokeandapancake]

You are both wise in the ways of road-kill. Thanks..

Deer are a dime a dozen. Not worth even bothering with this time of year.

Moose is a different story. There are many fistfights on the roadside over who is getting the moose.

[eastcoast_gsx]

Deer are a dime a dozen. Not worth even bothering with this time of year.

Moose is a different story. There are many fistfights on the roadside over who is getting the moose.

Twice I have helped someone(s) load up a moose after an 18 wheeler spun it off in the ditch.

One was a calf.... that was a score

[mat2312]

You aren't likely to get caught or charged even if you didn't report it. I just figured you were a hunter is all.

I wouldn't use a motorcycle as transportation for hunting, that's just irresponsible (for the above reasons). Even if I did kill a bear out of self defense, I don't think I'd risk taking the meat/pelt. I'd much rather leave it up to the MNR and wash my hands of the whole situation so as not to cast any doubt.