Fantino - Page 3



Page 3 of 11 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 60 of 203

Thread: Fantino

  1. #41
    Moderator Rob MacLennan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Brampton
    Posts
    17,138

    Re: Fantino

    If he had a shred of respect for his officers, then this would never have come up in the first place.
    Morally Ambiguous (submissions welcome)

    "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde

  2. #42
    eastcoast_gsx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Somewhere...
    Posts
    9,075

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacLennan View Post
    If he had a shred of respect for his officers, then this would never have come up in the first place.
    Good point.
    R e a d S l o w l y ! - Children at Play.

  3. #43

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoast_gsx View Post
    If he had any shred of respect for the officers under his charge, or the public trust placed in him he would step aside until this was all sorted out.

    Now it looks like nothing more then a mob goon using the system to save his own a**. And while I agree that the system is in place to protect the innocent, his position makes him obligated to see justice done, and to not damage the uniform that he wears.
    Totally agree ....

  4. #44
    eastcoast_gsx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Somewhere...
    Posts
    9,075

    Re: Fantino

    Nice... the dark clouds are forming for this jackass...

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/sto...no-appeal.html

  5. #45

    Re: Fantino

    Is he trying to go all the way to the supreme court in order to try and see if he can find a buddy judge along the way? Two courts have ruled.... time to sit there and hear the music.

  6. #46
    eastcoast_gsx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Somewhere...
    Posts
    9,075

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by Metastable View Post
    Is he trying to go all the way to the supreme court in order to try and see if he can find a buddy judge along the way? Two courts have ruled.... time to sit there and hear the music.
    And never having the respect to move aside for the sake of the force... an absolute disgrace IMO.

  7. #47

    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    1,670

    Re: Fantino

    let him pay out of his own pocket like the rest of us and stop pissing away the taxpayers coin

    regardless....this case is full of karma

    the outta control mall-cop will eventually pay his due and I can't wait

  8. #48

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted View Post
    I'm sorry ... but I've always believed that no one was above the law ... except Steven Segal ... but anyway ... guess i was wrong
    don't forget Chuck Norris and Techno Viking
    http://www.arcadius.ca/

    1964 Junak M10, 2000 Bandit 1200

  9. #49

  10. #50
    moto22's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Mississauga
    Posts
    800

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by Metastable View Post
    Is he trying to go all the way to the supreme court in order to try and see if he can find a buddy judge along the way? Two courts have ruled.... time to sit there and hear the music.

    I doubt it ,this guy is all about shirking and twisting the law to benefit him and his goons,he's going to put up more fight,the courts are going to have to really bring out the sledge hammer for this one...Funny how he wants due process for himself but not for anybody else...

  11. #51

    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    7,193

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by arekzjawin View Post
    Techno Viking
    that guy is awesome!

  12. #52
    Bantario's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    268

    Re: Fantino

    Sorry not today.............500k wasted on Julian's "Hysterical Nonsense"

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/sto...o-charges.html

    Charges against two senior Ontario police officers have been dropped — effectively ending a disciplinary process that threatened to tarnish the reputation of the head of the province's police force.
    The charges against Supt. Ken MacDonald and Insp. Allison Jevons were thrown out on Wednesday when the hearing resumed at OPP headquarters in Orillia. MacDonald used to head the unit that probes internal corruption and Jevons was a senior investigator in the unit.
    They were both charged with neglect of duty and deceit. But the two officers claimed they were victims of a witch hunt inside the Ontario Provincial Police force being orchestrated by OPP Commissioner Julian Fantino and the head of the OPP union, the Ontario Provincial Police Association.
    The decision also comes more than a year after Fantino began a series of legal moves aimed at having Justice Leonard Montgomery removed from the case because of remarks he made during the proceedings.
    The motion was rejected by a divisional court and upheld last month by the Ontario Court of Appeal.
    On Wednesday, when the hearing was scheduled to resume, the charges against the two officers were dropped — and that means Fantino will not have to return to the witness box.
    The disciplinary case centred on an investigation that looked into why OPP supervisors in eastern Ontario looked the other way when a local officer allegedly took a baseball bat to his wife's car. When MacDonald and Jevons concluded there was misconduct, the police union filed a complaint claiming major problems with the whole investigation.
    Fantino, who was new to the job as commissioner, ordered a review of the findings. He later agreed with the union and charged the two senior officers with neglect of duty and deceit for their handling of the investigation.
    MacDonald and Jevons, however, fought back and in the process made their own allegations. Part of their evidence was an email in which the union said it wanted to "Take down MacDonald."
    MacDonald and Jevons also claim Fantino bowed to union pressure.
    Days before charging MacDonald, another senior officer testified Fantino said, "Are you going to execute the disloyal one, or am I?" The senior officer made notes of the comments.
    The defence claimed that when Fantino learned those notes were about to become evidence, the officer was told he was being transferred to North Bay.
    Lawyers for the two accused officers said that amounted to witness tampering.
    During his testimony Fantino called the allegations "hysterical nonsense" and denied he was bowing to pressure from the OPP union.
    Fantino also denied any personal vendetta against MacDonald and Jevons.

  13. #53
    FiReSTaRT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    FZR600 Etobicoke
    Posts
    15,266

    Re: Fantino

    Just because the charges against his victims were dropped doesn't mean he shouldn't be on the hook for his misconduct in this affair.
    The Fizzer's up for sale http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum...-600-2050-cert
    Unofficial GTAM chat! Click for the info http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum...ad.php?t=91578
    Like many active sports, shooting has the potential to cause personal injury.
    "The proper wave to an e-biker is to raise your beer." [credit:'Baggsy@GTAM]

  14. #54

    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    1,670

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT View Post
    Just because the charges against his victims were dropped doesn't mean he shouldn't be on the hook for his misconduct in this affair.
    imo....the charges against his victims were dropped specifically so Fantino doesn't have to get back on the stand

    lovely....Fantino himself starts this whole mess....get's himself caught lying on the stand.....tries to get the judge tossed to no avail...appeals to a higher court and get's told to stfu.....and as soon as the case reopens they drop the charges so he escapes getting charged criminally

    and they send the taxpayers a $500,000 bill for all of this BS

  15. #55
    Bantario's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    268

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT View Post
    Just because the charges against his victims were dropped doesn't mean he shouldn't be on the hook for his misconduct in this affair.
    That's hysterical nonsense my friend!

  16. #56
    Moderator Rob MacLennan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Brampton
    Posts
    17,138

    Re: Fantino

    Fantino still needs to be investigated for, among other things, perjury and abuse of process.
    Morally Ambiguous (submissions welcome)

    "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde

  17. #57
    Bantario's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    268

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacLennan View Post
    Fantino still needs to be investigated for, among other things, perjury and abuse of process.
    I doubt that will happen.....

    Even if it should happen and "GOD" is set to retire next year, wouldn't the Police Services Act protect him?

  18. #58
    Moderator Rob MacLennan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Brampton
    Posts
    17,138

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by Thriller View Post
    I doubt that will happen.....

    Even if it should happen and "GOD" is set to retire next year, wouldn't the Police Services Act protect him?
    Quite the opposite; it would hurt him. The Criminal Code would too.
    Morally Ambiguous (submissions welcome)

    "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde

  19. #59

    Re: Fantino

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacLennan View Post
    Fantino still needs to be investigated for, among other things, perjury and abuse of process.
    But who will have a vested interest to investigate him? Which force would that be?

  20. #60

    Re: Fantino

    http://cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTV.../?hub=CP24Home

    ORILLIA, Ont. — Charges at the heart of a disciplinary matter involving provincial police Commissioner Julian Fantino were dropped Wednesday, the same day the cross-examination of Ontario's top police officer was to resume after being delayed by legal motions.

    The hearing into misconduct charges against two senior provincial police officers adjourned last fall when Fantino accused the adjudicator of bias during his cross-examination.

    The bias accusation came when retired justice Leonard Montgomery remarked he was "upset" during Fantino's cross-examination last fall when he appeared to have changed his evidence over a lunch break.

    In the ensuing year Fantino exhausted several legal avenues trying to get the adjudicator to recuse himself.

    Ontario's Appeal Court ruled last month in favour of a lower court decision saying an informed person viewing the matter realistically and practically would not conclude there was any apprehension of bias on the part of the adjudicator.

    Following that ruling, the hearing was set to resume Wednesday with the continuation of Fantino's cross-examination.

    Instead, prosecutor Brian Gover rose to say the charges against Supt. Ken MacDonald and Insp. Alison Jevons were being withdrawn.

    "This matter has been resolved to the satisfaction of the prosecution and the subject officers outside the discipline process," he said.

    Montgomery declared all the Police Services Act charges withdrawn, nearly three years after they were first laid.

    "This is in the best interest of the subject officers and certainly in the best interest of the administration of justice," he said.

    MacDonald and Jevons did not comment after the hearing, but their lawyer Julian Falconer said they are "relieved to get on with their careers."

    The defence has alleged that Fantino only laid the charges to appease the police union and because he suspected MacDonald of leaking information. During the disciplinary hearings, Falconer has also accused Fantino of witness tampering and political interference.

    "I agree with the manner in which this case has been resolved. However, I have not had an opportunity to respond to the serious allegations made against me during the abuse of process motion," Fantino said in a statement Wednesday.

    "The allegations made against me were made in the privileged environment of the hearing room. Those allegations are not true."

    The labyrinthine affair began in April 2004, when Susan Cole of Gananoque, Ont., called 911 to say her estranged husband, a provincial police sergeant, had taken a baseball bat to her car.

    Cole complained the responding officers asked her to leave her home rather than arrest her spouse -- a provincial police officer.

    MacDonald and Jevons investigated Cole's complaint, and concluded the responding officers had not followed proper procedure.

    From her home in Gananoque, Ont., Cole said she would have liked to see Fantino apologize to MacDonald and Jevons, who she called the only people to take her complaint seriously.

    Honorable people were turned into victims, Cole said, but now she feels both she and the two officers have been vindicated.

    "I felt it kind of confirmed the charges were baseless," she said.
    http://www.arcadius.ca/

    1964 Junak M10, 2000 Bandit 1200

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •