Fantino

[Pocket]

how is this guy still alive? this is BS talk about oppressing a province, the kid that died what is a law common sense law going to do if you have none to start with? Is it not common sense anymore that if your going onto the water on pleasure craft you should be wearing a jacket?

[Caribou Jack]

I found this older letter written about the stats & lies used in creating Bill203 then into HTA 172.
Last year, 320 people lost their lives on OPP patrolled roads, if you break down the statistics:
Last year
320 X .012 = 4 lives lost due to "street racing", vehicle seizure
Prior year
451 X .012 = 5 lives lost due to "street racing", vehicle seizure
By the math,
With over 10,000 vehicles and licenses seized, 1, life was saved.

I only had time to skim this, but if the numbers for percentage were from the article you posted then it looks like you made a decimal place error and your numbers are exaggerated by a magnitude...

The article stated 0.12 percent fatalities for street racing, therefore to compare that to 320 total fatalities the math is:

320 x 0.0012 = 0.384 deaths likely due to street racing that year, by probability. Assuming the error carried over to your estimate of the number of lives saved by 172, then, would be 1/10th of one life per year, or one life per decade, at the cost of ~100,000 impounds, lost hours of work, increased insurance rates, etc... Just makes an even better case for showing that 172 is little more than politics as usual

[CruisnGrrl]

the life vest law is just another way to fill the coffers.



drowned at a party... was alcohol involved? it's one thing to have a beer while you're casting a line... it's another to try and operate any vehicle (even a canoe) while drunk.