Reply With QuoteWhoa, nice set up JP. Going to make some nice session videos with that baby. Looking forward to the first Stunters Inc. DVD already, hah.
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Finally got my fish eye lens! $1100 and 1 month later.....Ive got to have the worst luck ever, first I get it and it has a factory defect (particle stuck between 2 lenses).....Send it back to them to dissasemble and clean it, and when they send it back UPS tries to charge me another $150.....Almost slapped the dude at UPS customer service, but whatever I got it back so I really want to get some footage with it...
The effect it gives is really cool for close ups of freestyle activity
Whoa, nice set up JP. Going to make some nice session videos with that baby. Looking forward to the first Stunters Inc. DVD already, hah.
Yeah I sold your rims and upper last week to fund it. LOL J/K but did you forget about all that stuff? I'll keep it as long as you want so no rush....Originally Posted by ZiN
Yeah the rig is pretty pimp, the guys at the store cant believe someone would spend 8G on something for personal use...They are like "what do you do weddings, porn, common you have to be doing something with it to make money".....As for a DVD maybe 2010, cause we cant even get a small clip going yet nevermind a DVD....If you know anyone that can edit HD, and isnt looking to make a fortune off me, send me their way...I know I wont be able to edit my own clips for a while, so for now Id like to pay someone to make some small clips with footage from this year...
Haha, was about to say where'd you get the extra coin. Thanks for holding onto the stuff for me, I should be by this week. I'm just waiting to get paid which is tomorrow so I can settle things up with you.
Thats hilarious, yeah people flip out when they hear some people buy gear like that for personal use but it will benefit you in the long run. Having trouble getting clips outputted eh? For real? If you know anyone that could track down some video editing software, I could do it up for yah. (my current internet sucks for acquiring such things, wink wink, nudge nudge) I have a complete multimedia background, audio/video/graphics you name it. I'm assuming it has a firewire or usb 2.0 cable to transfer the video.
Transferring isnt a problem, we got a firewire cable for a MAC....Sorage space is a problem because the person who we tried to test out a little footage editing with had a MAc laptop, and just 30min of HD from that camera took up 27Gigs on his HD....Thats not even 1 full tape, and he had to delete all his movies and stuff just to fit it on there....
I have access to pretty much any editing software, I just dont have a MAC or the time to learn how to use these programs yet...I will eventually but Id like to put out some clips before that happens....
Compared to that lense HD space is dirt cheap. Nice setup. I work with Avid 8hrs a day so if you are using that software package and need some tips just fire me a pm. You guys can make some sick vids with the stuff you have.
Storage really isn't an issue, hard drives are cheap now a days. Running a MAC however, isn't the easiest thing to locate. I'm a PC guy and unless my freelance really kicks off I won't be purchasing a MAC anytime soon. Yet I know how to use the video editing progs for them, go figure. But yeah, HD video would eat a MAC notebook for breakfast.
If it can be done on a PC, I'd give it a shot.
You can get quality editing software for both platforms. Avid is pricey but runs nice on both (actually better on the PC) but I run it on a mac at work. Final cut is Mac only but there are lots of other good pacakges. Just depends how much you want to spend and if you want to do it legit. Keep in mind if you guys intend to shoot HD (didn't see model of cam) you will require a lot more hardrive space and probably a raid setup to get the data to run off the drive fast enough. Yes the laptop will die under the stress. Buy a good multiprocessor computer and lots of ram and hard drive space (fast space).
Yeah its not an issue of it cant be done, its just an issue of me personally being a PC guy and not really ready to buy a MAC and even moreso not really willing to learn how to use one...LOL Not right now anyways, we are going to be buying one eventually, but that probably wont be up and running till winter time and Id like to have some small clips out before that...
The guys at the store say dont even bother with PC, I asked them to reccomend a PC program and he simply said "I dont"....So from what they are saying its MAC/Final cut studio 2 or dont even bother...
I'm not a big techie, but isn't there a program out there where you can turn your pc into a mac? like running 2 operating systems at a time? I dunno, maybe I'm just making it up, but I thought I talked to someone who did this... Just a thought.
Yup its a Canon XH A1 and were shooting full 1080i HD, so storage and speed for editing is an issue.....You need an equally pimp computer to handle what our camera films....Like I said were getting into that aswell, and will eventually have a proper MAC setup to do all this....Id just like to get a little sampler out before that if possible....
Lens looks awesome. What mount is it? Can it fit on a still camera body too? I think anybody with a Mac can patch together something in HD for you with iMovie. FCP can do many more interesting things, but it is harder to get your hands on. Have you built a steady cam mount for the camera yet? You can toss one together for very little money and it cleans up the results a lot (especially it you are shooting with the camera right down at pavement level). Looking forward to the results. lmk if you can't find anybody to edit for you. The last editing I did was almost a decade ago, but given the right material it could be entertaining.
Yeah, I picked up Final Cut Pro 4 really well in college. Wasn't that difficult to learn actually, pretty straight forward video editing software. Assuming others are along the same lines, wouldn't be hard to produce something decent.
Those guys need to chill out, all you want to do is process some clips for the web right? Get some buzz going. I don't believe you need a powerhouse MAC setup to get that going. When you want to get into HD DVD output, then yeah worry about which platform it gets produced on.
Yes thats possible and its already been suggested to me, but Id rather just buy another computer for that....I have PC at work for my CNC programming, and this PC is already full of enough crap for work. And I dont like installing too much other crap on here, my CAD/CAM software for work cost $20,000. And the last thing I need is problems with this PC, not allowing me to work. So Id rather get a competley seperate setup for the editing...
Its a specific mount for our camera (XH A1), so I dont think it fits anything else. Althouh Ive seen adaptors for pretty much anything..The camera does take photos also, and thats how took the one of my truck infornt of my shop...
We havent bought a tripod yet(its comming but $850!), but I just got a glide cam camera stablizer and forearm brace. And Im still in the process of balancing it...We noticed early on that steady footage is important, and you cant just hand it to anyone to operate and expect usable footage.....
So when and where's the test session?
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The guys at the store have no idea what they are talking about. You can cut good quality footage on any system. The software is more important than the system (except if you have your heart set on FCP). We have all MACPro towers (runnin Avid xpress) but in a month we are getting Avid soft composers on all new PC towers. Once again the software makes the computer not the OS when it comes to editing. I honestly love the new MACPro so you can dual boot in OSX or XP (best of both worlds).
I love the line 'I don't' when recomending a PC program. lol I guess they don't expect you to go with AVID but it is industry leading and so happens to be available for both PC and MAC.
AdRath knows his stuff JP, can't agree more with what he is saying. Sure having good raw material to work with is key but it comes down to the software in the end to manipulate it in the way you want to display it.
I think really when it comes down to it in the end is cost. At this current moment, I do not know which platform/software package would be the most cost effective for you to get the job done.
Hey man you know how it is, just like with bikes people always play favorites to brands....
The guy really knows his stuff and has the same camera as us, hes not saying the others wont get the job done...Its the way I asked the question "What PC software do you reccomend?" and he said "I dont" so basically I should have asked "If you had to use PC, what would you reccomend".......
But from what Ive been hearing MAC is the best for video editing.....Not everyone needs the best obviously...
Probably the best software packages are:
Final Cut Pro: If you have a mac this software integrates nicely with other features and is less 'tech heavy' in the learning curve. The Motion tool is nice for simple titles and graphics and saves having to export to After Effects to add cool titles etc.
Avid Express HD: A little lighter on the bells and whistles than Final cut Avid express is great at what it is supposed to do. Edit. I personally am the most familiar with Avid as I've been editing professionally with it for 8 years now. It is a little different to learn if you are used to a lot of drag and drop editing rather than cut/splice style (throwback to old film days) way of organising but essentially most features are very similar. If you know someone who is a student you can get a great deal on express pro educational bundle. Technically not for professional use but if no one tells its the same piece of software. Regardless learning a piece of software that has been fairly industry standard for around $300 edu price is a great bargin. Upgrade with a Mojo breakout box for anything other than DV related plus the Mojo allows to run clips of different quality in the same sequence (ie DV25 with 2:1)
Adobe Premiere: I have the least experience with this package since they re-worked it to compete in recent years (first software I ever edited on back in 1997/9. I have heard from some co-workers that it integrates really really nice with Adobe products like Photoshop or AfterEffects so if that is part of your work flow this might be a good choice. Also I would assume it is probably priced the lowest as it is the most 'consumer' of these 'Prosumer' software packages.
If anyone has more points to add please feel free.
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