3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.



Page 1 of 11 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 208

Thread: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

  1. #1
    TwoDog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Burlington, ON.
    Posts
    468

    3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/350203

    120 drivers lose vehicles, licences


    Mar 24, 2008 03:12 PM


    Justin Piercy
    Staff Reporter

    More than 120 people were charged over the long Easter weekend under the province's new street-racing law, the OPP said today.
    "Unfortunately, people don't think about road safety on long weekends," OPP Sgt. Cam Woolley said this afternoon. "In fact, we see more dangerous behaviour." Woolley noted that some drivers who were pulled over were clocked at speeds two or three times above the posted speed limit.

    The number of drivers charged is almost double the number charged on a normal weekend, Woolley said. About 3,500 have been charged with what is officially called "stunt driving" since the law came into effect last Sept. 30.

    Drivers who are charged have their vehicles seized and their licences suspended for seven days. They also face fines up to $2,000.


    Makes me wonder with 3500 charged during the Winter months, whats it going to be like during peak driving season.

    I also think unfortunatly we will read about some very terrible motorcycle accidents this year from 'runners'.

    Ride safe,
    Two.
    Son, observe the time and fly from evil.
    Ecc.IV.23.

  2. #2

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Think of how many planes they've paid for with the over $7 million in fines they've collected since this started 6 months ago.

  3. #3

    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    7,193

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    I'm more interested in exactly who and how many were going 2 or 3 times the speed limit? 3 times the speed limit? exactly how many is 'some'

  4. #4
    CROMAG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Scarborough
    Posts
    1,873

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdRath View Post
    I'm more interested in exactly who and how many were going 2 or 3 times the speed limit? 3 times the speed limit? exactly how many is 'some'

    It's media.. Did you catch the "up to $2000 fine" Last I heard it was $5000.. This whole 203 is nothing short of a joke.. Jokes on us....
    Never allow yourself to outrun your guardian angel






  5. #5

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdRath View Post
    I'm more interested in exactly who and how many were going 2 or 3 times the speed limit? 3 times the speed limit? exactly how many is 'some'
    As usual I'm sure it's Cam Wooley's hype.

    It's kinda like a lot of the tickets were for exactly 150, are we sure it wasn't rounded up from 146, 147, etc.

  6. #6
    Moderator Rob MacLennan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Brampton
    Posts
    17,138

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdRath View Post
    I'm more interested in exactly who and how many were going 2 or 3 times the speed limit? 3 times the speed limit? exactly how many is 'some'
    That's the thing about using obfuscatory language: Some could be anything from one, to all minus one.
    Morally Ambiguous (submissions welcome)

    "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde

  7. #7
    Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    on my Black 2005 Z750 in Durham
    Posts
    3,499

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    "They also face fines up to $2,000" no... it's up to $10,000... minimum of $2000

    So let's see... 3500 people at $2000 = $7,000,000

    Wow... talk about road safety...

    I'd like to shake the hand of the person going 300+km/h in traffic
    "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

    01001001 00100111 01100100 00100000 01010010
    01100001 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010
    00100000 01000010 01100101 00100000 01010010
    01101001 01100100 01101001 01101110 01100111


  8. #8
    mat2312's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Bikeless now :(
    Posts
    4,388

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    "They also face fines up to $2,000" no... it's up to $10,000... minimum of $2000

    So let's see... 3500 people at $2000 = $7,000,000

    Wow... talk about road safety...

    I'd like to shake the hand of the person going 300+km/h in traffic

    or the guy going 180kph in a 60, or 120 in a 40...



    I can't stand Cam Wooley
    www.durhaminline.com Inline Hockey in Durham Region

    OFAH member
    My civil libertarianism grows daily when confronted with the obvious injustices I witness.

  9. #9
    psycho44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    2,326

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    I'd like to know how they catch the guy going 300+ km/h or the 3500 others that have been speeding.

  10. #10
    HyRyze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Kitchener
    Posts
    1,196

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    "They also face fines up to $2,000" no... it's up to $10,000... minimum of $2000

    So let's see... 3500 people at $2000 = $7,000,000

    Wow... talk about road safety...

    I'd like to shake the hand of the person going 300+km/h in traffic
    I hope they at least use that money to fix up "some" of the roads...

    and statistics like that are kinda misleading... it's easy to lie with statistics.
    2 or 3 times the speed limit? gee, that's a lot of drivers doin 200 to 300 km/h on the 400 series..... damn.... I know my car can't do 200.... let alone 300. Who's got all these damn sports cars??
    And I bet if there were the same number of cruisers on the roads on regular days, as there are on holidays, that they'd catch the same number of drivers... so yea...
    P.S. out of all that "dangerous" behaviour, I wonder how many accidents there actually were? how "dangerous" was it really? Again, they're just using "speeding" and "dangerous" in the same sentence to create fear in drivers..

  11. #11
    SteveT
    Guest

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Support the Police...oops, I mean Troops

    Pay raises for everyone!

  12. #12
    moto22's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Mississauga
    Posts
    800

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Huh!! what a joke...............................

  13. #13

    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    1999 Yamaha YZF R6, 98 civic SI
    Posts
    678

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    MONEY MONEY MONEY GRAB....!!! Thats all this boils down to. Now that the accidents from racing have stopped they just keep inforcing it to the max do collect the dough. Now there getting more than the young street racers. Theyre nailing everyone from doctors to lawyers to broke down bums!!!
    Just take it nice and slow it lasts longer that way.!!!! Women who ride ROCK!!

    FIZZER

    My ride 1999 R6--->mods
    Jet Kit
    D&D slip on exhaust
    HID headlights
    Undertail w/upgraded intergrated tail lights
    polished aluminum swingarm
    frame sliders

  14. #14
    HarleyHare's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Richmond Hill,ON ... K7 ABS 650 V-Strom
    Posts
    189

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoDog View Post
    http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/350203

    More than 120 people were charged over the long Easter weekend under the province's new street-racing law, the OPP said today.
    "Unfortunately, people don't think about road safety on long weekends," OPP Sgt. Cam Woolley said this afternoon. "In fact, we see more dangerous behaviour." Woolley noted that some drivers who were pulled over were clocked at speeds two or three times above the posted speed limit.
    Police are pulling over an average 22 vehicles per day since it was first enacted on September 30, 2007. My question is when does the court system become so burdened down that they will start dismissing cases when those accussed have waited excessively and been denied a speedy trial?

    Also this month OPP reintroduced aircraft surveilance patrolling of the 400 both day and night (using night vision) after a 27 year absence. The courts gotta start becoming bogged down eventually. Has anyone heard how Ontario courts will respond to this increased volume?
    I'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride.

  15. #15
    bmo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    McCowan/401
    Posts
    347

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Well, I can't imagine it will be good. I had a court date not too long ago (got off) on March 7th 2008. The ticket was from February 21st, 2007... I got the notice of trial in the mail sometime in September before this law had nabbed it's first victim.

    If the wait is/was already 12.5 months (which IMHO is not reasonable amount of time to wait for a trial) I can't imagine the delays coming up. Some of those old timers will likely be dead before they see a court date!

    Brian

  16. #16
    mat2312's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Bikeless now :(
    Posts
    4,388

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Quote Originally Posted by bmo View Post
    Well, I can't imagine it will be good. I had a court date not too long ago (got off) on March 7th 2008. The ticket was from February 21st, 2007... I got the notice of trial in the mail sometime in September before this law had nabbed it's first victim.

    If the wait is/was already 12.5 months (which IMHO is not reasonable amount of time to wait for a trial) I can't imagine the delays coming up. Some of those old timers will likely be dead before they see a court date!

    Brian
    ya my traffic tickets are 13 months delayed (pre-203), this is getting ridiculous
    www.durhaminline.com Inline Hockey in Durham Region

    OFAH member
    My civil libertarianism grows daily when confronted with the obvious injustices I witness.

  17. #17
    ATTS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Burlington
    Posts
    2,416

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Taking a 203 ticket to court though wont stop the fact that they will seize your car or bike on the spot

  18. #18

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    3500 charged...how many are convicted?

    If there is a low conviction rate, it would signal that the law is flawed, and the police themselves dont understand it.
    CHOWDAH RIDAH

    2007 ZX-14 -92,000km
    2006 BW'S -7,000km
    2005 ZX636R -63,533km (stolen)
    2004 SV650S -30,000km (sold)
    2003 ZZR250 -15,000km (sold)

    Current tire choice: Pirelli Angel
    Last tire choice: Road Smart- 19,000 on last set (not the best though..)
    CSC Certified Riding Instructor

  19. #19
    scarface's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    2001 CBR929 erion
    Posts
    908

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    considering the potential revenue they'll be getting from 203, i'm sure they'll somehow give priority to those tickets first.

  20. #20
    Moderator Rob MacLennan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Brampton
    Posts
    17,138

    Re: 3500 Charged Under 203 Since Inception.

    Quote Originally Posted by suprPHREAK View Post
    3500 charged...how many are convicted?

    If there is a low conviction rate, it would signal that the law is flawed, and the police themselves dont understand it.
    So far they seem to have only been pushing the 50 Kmh over section. At least no other charges have made the news. By sticking to this quantifiable section they are able to sustain their conviction rate. I would think that even if they don't convict on 203, they can still do so on the lesser included offence of speeding at greater than 50 Kmh over the limit, which is still 6 points and a hefty fine. A conviction is a conviction.
    Morally Ambiguous (submissions welcome)

    "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •