why lmao? whp is always less than bhp
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164.4whp.....claimed 195bhp, haha, yeah righthttp://www.motorcycle-usa.com/12/1453/4/Motorcycle-Blog-Post/Ducati-1199-Panigale-Horsepower-Torque.aspxstill ~20whp down from the King!
why lmao? whp is always less than bhp
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/12/145...er-Torque.aspx <-- working link.
Uh, that's what I was telling myself...not sure what the OP is going on about...
E.g. My Mustang stock was claimed at 300 "bhp", but in truth churned out around 250rwhp...
Hp takes into account parasitic loss from all the components, whereas "bhp" is the claimed number.
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thanks bud
see post #4, obviously whp < bhp with about 10-15% powertrain loss
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b/c BMW always underrates their engines (unlike Ducati)the 1st version of the N54 engine makes well over 330bhp at the crank, they choose to only claim 300bhpsame with the new N20 2.0L twin scroll, makes over 220whp, but they choose to only claim 240bhpseriously, Ducati should take a good look at itself and ask "really, does my engine really makes 195hp at the crank?"btw 1199's track time is about 2s off from the s1000rr, according to the latest MCN shootout
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you do realize that the advertised horsepower is based on numbers from an ENGINE dyno right? The 195hp is measured brake horsepower... it's a real number. There isn't a manufacturer in the world which advertises wheel horsepower.
In BMWs case they simply under-report their brake horsepower, or use some different method of measure.
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Torque is really more a function of displacement... where the torque happens is a little more up to geometry and other factors...
All this jibber-jabber about hp this, torque that....... BMW isn't even the highest acclaimed power-maker in the super-sport bike world.... MV Agusta's F4RR claims 201hp measured at the countershaft sprocket.
Google is your friend.
who cares about bhp on bikes you don't own...? Are you going to write Ducati an angry letter?
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Stock Ducati's are well known to have tall gearing. This is done to meet exhaust db levels and emissions for import to this country. Because of this, rear wheel horsepower numbers are prone to having a greater disconnect with crank hp comparatively with inline 4's. That said, seat-of-the-pants feel in how that hp is exploited will always be distinctly different between those two performance tuned engine configurations regardless of what the actual dyno numbers reveal.
OMG,they lied? That's it,i'll sell my Duc's and buy SV's to save my soul.
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