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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Do you happen to look like this whilst the "sliding" occurs?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ-619_slfs
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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    This will also happen when going around a corner with a decent lean angle and the back tire goes over tar snakes. I can feel my back tire slide every time it hits a tar snake in a corner.

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by EOL View Post
    This will also happen when going around a corner with a decent lean angle and the back tire goes over tar snakes. I can feel my back tire slide every time it hits a tar snake in a corner.
    Those tar snakes are nasty.

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    lol you guys are haters!
    i dont look like the people shown in the video lol im not sure how to describe my riding position...comfy?
    i checked tires today, they were at 34 front and 36 rear, i left them un touched.

    i have a 91 honda f2 which is ~450lbs
    im 160lbs

    when i posted this thread, i was very new to riding, but lately i havent noticed it happening. maybe it was just in my head, or maybe the roads are warming up?

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    A quick Google search shows that for your bike, the Honda recommended tire pressure is 36 PSI front and 42 PSI rear.
    Checking your tire pressure should be the first thing you do specially after winter storage and you should check your tires frequently, I check mine's once a week and some might argue that you might need to do it more than that.
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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Probably the road conditions. The psi your running is fine, if you 2up or load up to tour then bump up your rear to the max reccomended.

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by inasser View Post
    A quick Google search shows that for your bike, the Honda recommended tire pressure is 36 PSI front and 42 PSI rear.
    Are you sure that's "recommended" and not "maximum"? Got a link for your source?

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    My 2 cents are that it's the suspension and not the tire slipping at all.
    It's understanding that makes it possible for a person such as myself to tolerate a person like you.

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by reaimdown View Post
    if your wheels are cold... Don't take turns sharply... Your wheel will slip out from under you...


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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedDogDarren View Post
    My 2 cents are that it's the suspension and not the tire slipping at all.
    I'm with Him ^^^

    Sounds to me like you where just hitting little cracks and bumps and "in your head" it felt like your rear end was slipping.

    if it all of a sudden stopped, it's just because you got comfier and now your more relaxed and not trying to notice everything your bike is doing when your riding.
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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    I have to be pretty heavy handed with the throttle to get the rear to step out, and I have a few more hp than you do.
    Definitively start with tire pressure, too hard won't feel so planted on rough surfaces, your suspension if at stock settings is probably fine.

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Besides the good sound mechanical advice offered here (nuts, bolts, fluids etc)

    [QUOTE=toysareforboys;1781237 Also make sure your suspension is set correctly. Look at some youtube videos on setting sag/preload and/or take it to a professional. A properly setup suspension REALLY make the bike feel planted over bumps in the corners.

    -Jamie M.[/QUOTE]

    This ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Quote Originally Posted by infernobuster View Post
    +1. Check your tire pressures. Contact the manufacture directly for what they recommend for tire pressure.

    Everyone on here will give you different numbers ..
    and this^^^^^^^^. Ignore anyone on here quoting tire pressure numbers to you. As the boi says, consult your TIRE manufacturer. All tires are different.

    And asking is always cheaper than crashing.
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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by toysareforboys View Post
    Are you sure that's "recommended" and not "maximum"? Got a link for your source?

    -Jamie M.
    That's the recommended PSI Honda gave for my 2002 F4i and is still the same for my 2011 600RR. It's in the manual.

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfetus View Post
    Do you happen to look like this whilst the "sliding" occurs?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ-619_slfs

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by vkhamphi View Post
    That's the recommended PSI Honda gave for my 2002 F4i and is still the same for my 2011 600RR. It's in the manual.
    Do you still have the same tire that came as OEM??(probably not)

    If you don't, manual information is not relevant.

    The TIRE manufacturer will also have much different pressure recommendations for their tires than the BIKE manufacturers do.

    This has been proven on a number of occasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery254 View Post
    Besides the good sound mechanical advice offered here (nuts, bolts, fluids etc)



    This ^^^^^^^^^^^^



    and this^^^^^^^^. Ignore anyone on here quoting tire pressure numbers to you. As the boi says, consult your TIRE manufacturer. All tires are different.

    And asking is always cheaper than crashing.
    Why would he consult the tire manufacturer?
    Bike tire pressures are recommended by the bike manufacturer for that specific bike, not by the tire manufacturer.
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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by boooya View Post
    Why would he consult the tire manufacturer?
    Bike tire pressures are recommended by the bike manufacturer for that specific bike, not by the tire manufacturer.
    Because every manufacturer builds tires slightly different, the Owners manual recommendations are for the OEM tire.

    If the OEM tire is replaced with a different brand of tire, that OEM recommended pressure is no longer relevant.

    It has also been show that the BIKE manufacturer will recommend different pressures than the tire manufacturer, even for the OEM tire

    Bike manufacterer's recommend a pressure that will ensure the bike will handle maximum load, this does not result in the best performance(36front, 42 rear)

    almost all tire manufacturers recommend a LOWER rear pressure than front pressure.

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by vkhamphi View Post
    That's the recommended PSI Honda gave for my 2002 F4i and is still the same for my 2011 600RR. It's in the manual.
    Hmmm. Downloading 2011 600RR manual now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItIsWhatItIs View Post
    In any case what difference does it make where you reduce the amount of teeth in a sprocket, front or rear? The effect will be the same. Most change the front sprocket because it's easier to source that sprocket. It's apparent, sprockets are not your strong suit.
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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by reciprocity View Post
    Do you still have the same tire that came as OEM??(probably not)

    If you don't, manual information is not relevant.

    The TIRE manufacturer will also have much different pressure recommendations for their tires than the BIKE manufacturers do.

    This has been proven on a number of occasions.
    Yes I still have the OEM tire.

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    Re: back tire sliding -> normal?

    Reciprocity is right. They calculate for max load.

    From 08 ZX6R manual:

    Air Pressure (when Cold):
    Front Up to 180 kg (397 lb) load:
    250 kPa (2.5 kgf/cm², 36 psi)
    – – –
    Rear Up to 180 kg (397 lb) load:
    290 kPa (2.9 kgf/cm², 42 psi)
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    This motorcycle is simply too goddamn fast to ride at speed in any kind of normal road traffic unless you're ready to go straight down the centerline with your nuts on fire and a silent scream in your throat.

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