What we always knew

**RockerGuy** · 04-26-2012, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by AGAVE

Careful, you're gonna hurt turbos feelings with that quote...

"While police officers can randomly stop vehicles to check vehicle safety or a driver's paperwork, they must otherwise have reasonable grounds to believe an offence is being committed to stop a car, detain a person or search a house. Mere suspicion is not enough."

Turbo's buddies hurt my feelings everytime they stop me when I'm already late for work. Spend 15mins checking my record even tho its clean

**ABadjusterrider_5** · 04-26-2012, 12:26 PM

I was hoping he would chime in on this, him and open Gambit

**OpenGambit** · 04-26-2012, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by ABadjusterrider_5

I was hoping he would chime in on this, him and open Gambit

If you are asking whether this would somehow undo the more general assumption that cops are honest, the answer is no.

If you are asking whether you can use this as evidence that a particular cop is lying, that depends, if the testifying cop happens to be the one testifying in the video, the answer is maybe, if its any other cop, the answer is no (because its irrevelant.)

**budgetracing** · 04-26-2012, 11:09 PM

Wait, hold on a second. For real? The general assumption is that cops are honest?

**OpenGambit** · 04-26-2012, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by budgetracing

Wait, hold on a second. For real? The general assumption is that cops are honest?

oh look another one.

**AGAVE** · 04-26-2012, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by OpenGambit

oh look another one.

That makes 98% of us now!!
Sucks to be in the closed minded minority group eh?

**OpenGambit** · 04-26-2012, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by AGAVE

That makes 98% of us now!!
Sucks to be in the closed minded minority group eh?

must suck more to not be able to answer the OP's question and be stuck responding to someone you claimed to have put on ignore.

**EngineerJoe** · 04-27-2012, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by budgetracing

Wait, hold on a second. For real? The general assumption is that cops are honest?

In court, yes. Unless there is reason to suggest otherwise. You can't paint all the cops with the same brush. And hey, this assumption works in our favorite as well. How would you like it if your testimony was thrown out because another member of the general public lied at their trial?

**budgetracing** · 04-27-2012, 12:14 AM

Isn't that generally the assumption of the court? That cops NEVER lie and the person defending themselves is always lying?

My experience

Cop was looking down at computer or whatever with provincial revenue generating device or PRGD for short (radar gun) out the window. I specifically saw him the whole time. I told him it was not me speeding it was the guy next to me that slowed down before he looked up from whatever he was doing. Cop says no it wasn't.

Another time i was driving west on steels and turned right on to Rutherford and there was a cop standing on the corner. He signaled me to pull into the parking lot. I stopped and reached into the back to grab my wallet. The cop comes up and says i wasn't wearing my seat belt. I told him i always wear it. He said well you're not wearing it properly right now. (as the top belt slipped under my arm when grabbing my back pack).

And i meant assumption by the public not the court.

And just so you don't feel too butthurt my uncle was a u/c for toronto drug task and my great grand father was chief of police so it's not like i'm a life long criminal.

**psycho44** · 04-27-2012, 04:48 AM

ah Calgary police nothing new lol. Word on the street is to avoid the ones with British accents they'll give you a good roughing like this officer did.

**OpenGambit** · 04-27-2012, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by budgetracing

Isn't that generally the assumption of the court? That cops NEVER lie and the person defending themselves is always lying?

My experience

Cop was looking down at computer or whatever with provincial revenue generating device or PRGD for short (radar gun) out the window. I specifically saw him the whole time. I told him it was not me speeding it was the guy next to me that slowed down before he looked up from whatever he was doing. Cop says no it wasn't.

Another time i was driving west on steels and turned right on to Rutherford and there was a cop standing on the corner. He signaled me to pull into the parking lot. I stopped and reached into the back to grab my wallet. The cop comes up and says i wasn't wearing my seat belt. I told him i always wear it. He said well you're not wearing it properly right now. (as the top belt slipped under my arm when grabbing my back pack).

And i meant assumption by the public not the court.

And just so you don't feel too butthurt my uncle was a u/c for toronto drug task and my great grand father was chief of police so it's not like i'm a life long criminal.

cool this has absolutely nothing to do with court testimony.

there is a thread down there to complain about the cops for the 98 % ( agave math ) of people in this thread that have no clue what they are talking about.