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    Some questions for you racer people

    I am getting curious about this trackday stuff.

    I'd like to try it and see if its something i'd enjoy..

    so,

    Can you rent a bike and equipment, like in Skiing ?

    can i just show up and get fitted and out i go ?

    are there license requirements ?

    what might be an estimate for the above ?

    Ive looked on websites, but didnt see much.

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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Quote Originally Posted by braveheart View Post
    I am getting curious about this trackday stuff.

    I'd like to try it and see if its something i'd enjoy..

    so,

    Can you rent a bike and equipment, like in Skiing ?

    can i just show up and get fitted and out i go ?

    are there license requirements ?

    what might be an estimate for the above ?

    Ive looked on websites, but didnt see much.
    oh ****, time to sell the track bike
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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Quote Originally Posted by braveheart View Post
    I am getting curious about this trackday stuff.

    I'd like to try it and see if its something i'd enjoy..

    so,

    Can you rent a bike and equipment, like in Skiing ?

    can i just show up and get fitted and out i go ?

    are there license requirements ?

    what might be an estimate for the above ?

    Ive looked on websites, but didnt see much.
    I think Racer5 and FAST are the only places renting bikes and providing instruction (locally) these days. Check their websites or call for more details.
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    i guess not being stupid should be a prerequisite for wrenching on bikes.

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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Quote Originally Posted by ZX600 View Post
    oh ****, time to sell the track bike
    Why? Do you ride in green?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meme View Post
    Never too old for fun.
    Quote Originally Posted by caboose483 View Post
    i guess not being stupid should be a prerequisite for wrenching on bikes.

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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Quote Originally Posted by sircastic View Post
    Why? Do you ride in green?
    It was a joke, the last time I rode with him he crashed lol

    Here Braveheart stage 1 is probably appropriate http://www.racer5.ca/index.php?optio...&Itemid=61
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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    a 125 ? with classes ? what ?!?

    i was thinking of at least a 600 and just let me tear around for awhile

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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Quote Originally Posted by braveheart View Post
    a 125 ? with classes ? what ?!?

    i was thinking of at least a 600 and just let me tear around for awhile
    If you are serious about it

    A couple of things to consider:
    - it is not as easy as it looks
    - You are going to get tired very fast and probably waste your money by trying and toss the 600 around (saying this because I know you don't ride SS bikes)
    - With a smaller bike you will feel more comfortable and have a lot more fun for the first time
    - They will teach you basics, like body position, etc which you will need

    and a bunch of other reasons

    Without Sport Bike riding experience I wouldn't recommend you to just grab a 600 and do a track day, it wouldn't be fun, you are going to be frustrated on best case scenario

    I'm a noob on track since I am just getting back after a long time away, so I am sure others can advice you better

    if not, I think they also just rent a bike and gear for you to jump on a 600 and go do what you desire, I am not sure
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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    I agree with the others learn on a small bike. Less risk, bigger payoff. I think you may already be outta luck anyway. The schools are booked way in advance and I know Fawaz was booking Sept at the show in Jan. He also just added a few bikes to the fleet though so that may have added a few spaces. Racer5 has bikes all over the map CBR125, Ninja 250, Various breeds of 600s, even a full sbk R1. Question is will he rent them to a new student. Even if you do fast your on a 600 but its governed. As far as I know there are no rentals in Ont with uncorked 600s.

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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Arent they only renting to known riders? That was my understanding but I may be wrong.

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    call them and ask

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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Do us all, and yourself, a favour by doing a school.

    If you're a cruiser rider then what about this;

    http://www.torontomotorsportspark.co...s_instrtn.html
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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    The smaller CC bikes are fantastic for learning. I instruct with Racer5 and the success rate is huge. Do a search on this forum and see some of the positive experiences people have had. I myself enjoy riding the smaller CC bike to learn a new track configuration or just shake off the dust if it has been a few weeks since I have ridden. We regularly have students going faster in the infield on a 125CC bike then people out on there own 600CC or larger bikes. Come out an watch at a trackday to see for yourself. Like Kneedragger88 said the courses fill up quickly.
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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Quote Originally Posted by meme View Post
    Bike rental + track time adds up to a $600+ day. And

    There is no insurance, but rather a 'fix-what-you-break' policy.
    could be like signing a blank cheque.

    On the flip side, Pro 6 are putting out "instructors" this year to help people learn the track and the lines so that would help a new rider.

    Although I've said it before, learning a new skill on a new bike at a new track as big and complicated as Calabogie is only gonna end up being, in some way, a disappointment for the rider.
    Spineless swines. Cemented minds.

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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Quote Originally Posted by braveheart View Post
    a 125 ? with classes ? what ?!?

    i was thinking of at least a 600 and just let me tear around for awhile
    http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum...89#post1775989

    A well piloted 250 showing up litre bikes.
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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    I did my first ever track day yesterday. Absolute blast, cold but worth the time out... So much to learn, i think im hooked.
    (on my own bike)
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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery254 View Post
    http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum...89#post1775989

    A well piloted 250 showing up litre bikes.
    That's a great video. Great riding.

    There is no better learning tool for learning lines and riding properly than a lack of power. HP is good at compensating for poor riding.
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    Never too old for fun.
    Quote Originally Posted by caboose483 View Post
    i guess not being stupid should be a prerequisite for wrenching on bikes.

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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery254 View Post
    Bike rental + track time adds up to a $600+ day. And



    could be like signing a blank cheque.

    On the flip side, Pro 6 are putting out "instructors" this year to help people learn the track and the lines so that would help a new rider.

    Although I've said it before, learning a new skill on a new bike at a new track as big and complicated as Calabogie is only gonna end up being, in some way, a disappointment for the rider.
    You'd either have the skills or the bills - you decide which one you want to pay into. I just mentioned another option

    OP - I loved FAST when I did it, but it was also expensive. I'm guessing it was about 10 years ago and it was $1000 for two days.

    The real expensive part comes AFTER you are hooked though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sircastic View Post
    There is no better learning tool for learning lines and riding properly than a lack of power. HP is good at compensating for poor riding.
    Only in beginner and intermediate.... Once they're in the group with riders that actually know what they're doing, horsepower isn't enough to keep up.

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    Re: Some questions for you racer people

    its a drug, very expensive, addictive as hell, adds no real value to society, you start cutting your food budget to pay for it and consider selling things you own to support it. You'll become distant from loved ones wrenching late at night for that extra horsepower or trick part. But nothing can match the smile it puts on your face when your leaned over 2 wide with a good friend at an apex.

    Wouldn't trade it for the world. Like others said, start with a small bike, I started on an ex500 at the track for a while, nimble compared to most others in the corner, not really a race bike, and got eaten on the straights, but it made you smile. A low-HP bike will help make you an better rider.
    don't be a road crayon, wear your gear, the road doesn't care how "cool" you think you look when it's busy cheese grading your skin.

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