What is the advantage of using a radial master cylinder

[krrakt]

I assume it does more than just look great..

http://www.topendz.com/mm5/merchant....ory_Code=Pazzo

[frekeyguy]

That brembo RCs master is amazing, you can change up the ratio and feel.

Radial master vs regular. Radial master has a better feel

[Stewart]

if it isn't broken don't fix it, your wasting your money, no difference.

[frekeyguy]

if it isn't broken don't fix it, your wasting your money, no difference.

....ill let you try my bike with the RCS on...and let me know if your opinion changes then...

[RockerGuy]

....ill let you try my bike with the RCS on...and let me know if your opinion changes then...

Is that offer extended to me??

[frekeyguy]

Is that offer extended to me??

if you wreck her...make sure you pick up all the pieces for me...

[imkruzen]

All the Radial MC does is allow you to use even less finger pressure to activate the brakes.... just do a google search "you don't need radial MC on radial brakes" and you'll see over and over threads on everything from Aprillia forums to GSXR forums... it's just another over rated upgrade.

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[RockerGuy]

All the Radial MC does is allow you to use even less finger pressure to activate the brakes.... just do a google search "you don't need radial MC on radial brakes" and you'll see over and over threads on everything from Aprillia forums to GSXR forums... it's just another over rated upgrade.

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[fastar1]

All the Radial MC does is allow you to use even less finger pressure to activate the brakes.... just do a google search "you don't need radial MC on radial brakes" and you'll see over and over threads on everything from Aprillia forums to GSXR forums... it's just another over rated upgrade.

For Fastar1

LOL friggin avatar threw me for a loop there.

[DownUnder]

if it isn't broken don't fix it, your wasting your money, no difference.

Seriously? WOW. Please stay out of technical forum...

[JohnnyP636]

Depends on what radial master you are talking about....An OEM cast radial master is only slightly better then a conventional OEM style, they have a little better feel IMO...However if you are talking about an aftermarket Brembo, Berringer, Magura, etc...There is much more of a difference between those and OEM radial master...Personally I like big bore radial masters like Brembo 19x20 or Magura 20mm....Those will have a much stiffer feel in the lever, and less travel means more braking in comparison to a smaller bore like a 18x19...And another thing is the aftermarket master have much less fade under higher stress like at the track...Or when I smash 120km/h stoppies for half an hour straight...OEM masters fade much more due to heat, then an aftermarket Brembo or Magura....

Take a look at medium or high lever race bikes, 90% of the people running in those classes run an aftermarket Brembo lever...Personally since Ive been running Brembo 19x20 or Magura 20mm since 2001 on every bike Ive ever owned, anything stock radial or not, feels like crap with no braking power...

I own 3 600's right now, 1 has a billet Brembo 19x20, the other has a forged Brembo 19x20, and the last one has a Magura billet 20mm...I just bought a KX450f that is getting converted to supermoto, and one of the first parts Im ordering for it is a Brembo billet radial 16x16 master

[krrakt]

I assume, with these big bore mc's you also need stainless or carbon lines to get the desired effect?

I noticed when I changed only my brake line to stainless the brakes were much less squishy, stiffer, much better.

If the upgraded cylinder will give more of that stiffer feel then great, as I definetely liked the change with the lines, so I think it is a worthwhile upgrade,

thanks

[imkruzen]

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[krrakt]

if it isn't broken don't fix it, your wasting your money, no difference.

It does not seem to be a very costly upgrade, and if it does more of what my s.steel brakelines do, then that is a relevant difference. For me anyway.

[imkruzen]

The main advantage of the radial design per se is that it moves the lever pivot point inward toward the centerline of the bike so that the same pull force develops a smaller moment about the connection point to the handlebar. This reduction in bending moment results in less flexing of the master cylinder housing. Any reduction in flexing of brake parts such as in the lever, MC housing, brake lines, calipers and caliper mounts add up to better brakes with better feel (modulation.) Also, aftermarket radial designs are generally stiffer than the OEM designs because they are machined from alloy billet material.

Keep in mind however, changing your stock master cylinder to an aftermarket radial design will NOT give you more braking power to help you stop sooner.

A radial master cylinder with a different piston diameter and/or lever fulcrum-to-piston distance will only change the feel of the brakes at the lever.

The Brembo aftermarket radial 19mm diameter master cylinders offer you the choice of a brake lever fulcrum-to-piston distance of either 16mm, 18mm or 20mm. The stock lever is 16mm.

So your choice is either 19x16, 19x18 or 19x20.

19x16 (stock) requires the least lever effort but the longest pull distance for the best modulation.

19x18 requires 11% lighter pull and 11% longer pull distance than the 19x20 MC. More feel (better modulation characteristics) than the 19x20

19x20 requires the most lever force but the shortest pull. More like a trigger action.

Some riders think that this short-pull trigger action means that they have "better" brakes, but they don't - at least not for all riding conditions. What they do get is the same braking power with poorer modulation (feel) characteristics. Good for the track perhaps, but often dangerous on the street, especially in the wet. In an emergency, most of us have the instinct to grab a brake hard. So if you value a better feel, when choosing between the 19x18 and the 19x20 for the street, go for the 19X18.

[fastar1]

At least quote your source if you're gonna cut 'n paste.

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/80-hall-...tml#post252446

[dr_sarcasm]

At least quote your source if you're gonna cut 'n paste.

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/80-hall-...tml#post252446

Oh. Snap.

Let's give him/her the benefit of the doubt and assume that 'Shazaam' is actually imkruzen...maybe...

[RockerGuy]

Oh. Snap.

Let's give him/her the benefit of the doubt and assume that 'Shazaam' is actually imkruzen...maybe...

And who're you?
I believe you're a reincarnation of someone that got banned

[dr_sarcasm]

And who're you?
I believe you're a reincarnation of someone that got banned