Integrated tail lights?

**Brian P** · 04-21-2012, 03:55 PM

Be prepared for no-one behind you to be able to see which way you are about to turn (or even IF you are about to turn). There is nowhere near enough separation distance between the left and right signals and I'll just about guarantee that the signals won't be bright enough, either.

**Aslan** · 04-21-2012, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Brian P

Be prepared for no-one behind you to be able to see which way you are about to turn (or even IF you are about to turn). There is nowhere near enough separation distance between the left and right signals and I'll just about guarantee that the signals won't be bright enough, either.

I've added LED strip lights as signals to my passenger pegs, I'm told it has solved that problem fairly well.

**Brian P** · 04-21-2012, 04:35 PM

^ I've seen that done, also. If you are going to do that, then you don't need the integrated tail light! Just use the standard tail light as it is, and put the signals somewhere else. Make sure they are really, really bright!

**Trice87** · 04-23-2012, 01:04 PM

Hmm putting LED strips, does that satisfy the requirements of the MTO? Like I mean will I get pulled over for it and given a ticket? I really just want to get rid of the original signals.

**HunGJaI** · 04-23-2012, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Trice87

Hmm putting LED strips, does that satisfy the requirements of the MTO? Like I mean will I get pulled over for it and given a ticket? I really just want to get rid of the original signals.

Something like this

http://tripageled.com/store/index.ph...product_id=118

Your not removing your orginal ones...your just adding more.

**Brian P** · 04-23-2012, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Trice87

Hmm putting LED strips, does that satisfy the requirements of the MTO? Like I mean will I get pulled over for it and given a ticket? I really just want to get rid of the original signals.

If you want to fully comply with all of the technical requirements of CMVSS then leave the bike alone, with its stock signals. This way, unquestionably, the vehicle is in compliance with the applicable standards.

Anything done beyond that is open to question. Strictly speaking, Ontario's Highway Traffic Act doesn't have anything in it about turn signals on motorcycles, but if you don't have them, then you have to use hand signals (How many car drivers know what the hand signals mean?). But the police have the authority to require you to subject your vehicle to an inspection, and the requirements in that will be the same as the criteria for getting a safety standards certificate (except that you won't have the choice in who does the inspection - you could get a really, really anal letter-of-the-law type - and in this situation, I would expect that to be the case!) and in that case, all of the original lighting on the vehicle is supposed to be in place and working and any substitutes have to meet the same standards that the originals met.

Putting ADDITIONAL lighting normally isn't a problem as long as (1) the original functions still remain and conform to the requirements, and (2) the colours and functions of additional lighting are consistent with CMVSS 108.

**Trice87** · 04-23-2012, 02:46 PM

aww man, does this mean I'm stuck with these bunny ears?

I don't want to add more lights, Don't want to look like a light show, I wanted to remove the originals and put something else in replacement of them.

Am I out of alternatives?

**HunGJaI** · 04-23-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Trice87

aww man, does this mean I'm stuck with these bunny ears?

I don't want to add more lights, Don't want to look like a light show, I wanted to remove the originals and put something else in replacement of them.

Am I out of alternatives?

Then just put the aftermarket lights on...I believe like 90% of all bikes on the road have aftermarket to remove the fender....(I have not seen anyone get in trouble for that yet.....)