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    Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    Hey guys,

    Just to let everyone know, I am new to this forum, I have searched the forum, and have not been able to find a thread which answers this question to this exact degree. From my situation (as well as what you can tell from the title) I understand I am going to be financially raped by this, but I guess you just have to eat it for the first year or so.

    Now the problem is, finding a goddamn insurance company that will even consider me without a 4-6 thousand dollar upfront fee. I will have finished the Gearing Up Humber course at the end of the May long weekend, and was looking at buying a 2006 Suzuki GZ250. I got my M1 on April 10th of this year, and will have my M2 on June 9th. I've been licensed as a driver for 3 years about now (got my G1 in Nov 2008 ). I was hoping to buy the bike the week after I finish up at Humber. Given my situation, I've looked around at like...about 10 different insurance companies, and they drop their crap about needing a minimum of 3 years experience or 5 years driving experience to even be considered. If you guys can sort of steer me in the right direction, I would be greatly appreciative of it. I am fine with paying a 3 term, 7 term, or monthly, its just that this full payment up front thing is a joke. What bothers me more, is that the company I am currently under with my car insurance (Grey Power) was going to insure me, then when I went to verify a quote I had gotten from them literally the day before, they tell me I was misinformed, and that by the time I buy the bike, the policy won't apply to me anymore since they are changing it to needing 3 years minimum experience next month. Yay!

    The thing I find hilarious about these insurance companies, is that they all claim to want experienced riders, yet someone who just gets licensed has no method of gaining legitimate experience without being insured. Makes no sense to me.

    PS: Driving record is spotless, I've been insured on a G2 since May 2010. No accidents, no tickets. I live in Sauga
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    Re: Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    Welcome to GTAM. Did you happen to read my sticky post?
    http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum...-the-best-rate

    Jevco will take riders with no experience and an M1, but it won't be terribly cheap given your age. Your rate should decrease each year for the next three years as you build your motorcycle experience. Try giving John Duffy a call (and his contact info should be in the broker sticky).

    I find it weird that you are insured by Grey Power, since their target market is the 50+ crowd. Unless you are under your parents' policy with the car, I would think that you could probably find your auto insurance to be cheaper elsewhere (such as maybe Belair Direct).
    I'm an Actuarial Analyst for a Major Canadian Insurance Company. I analyse claims patterns to determine overall rate changes, as well as relative premium differences by various risk characteristics (eg. age, experience, claims, convictions, usage, etc.)

    Unless it's private, please post insurance-related questions in the forum rather than sending me a PM.

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    Re: Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    At your age and experience make sure you have Vaseline handy...
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    Re: Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffjones View Post
    At your age and experience make sure you have Vaseline handy...
    Multiple jars man.

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    Re: Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    You're going to hear this a lot. Wait one year then buy a bike. Yea, you wanna be the cool guy with a motorcycle but its not worth spending 4-5 thousand dollars just to be cool.
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    Re: Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    same situation as you. But i have GM2 got it beginning of April and quote was 3700$ liability only on a 250 ninja..

    Its either suck it up for 1 year or wait 1 year.

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    Re: Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    I called John Duffy Insurance Brokers after reviewing your sticky earlier actually, and they quoted me at something like 3900, and it was an upfront fee with no option for payment terms. And yes, I am under my father's policy with Grey Power. Is that really my best bet though? I understand it will be a lot no matter what at this point, I am just trying to avoid a one pay deal... Thanks for the reply by the way :] Looking forward to contributing to the community as I get more experience with a motorcycle!
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    Re: Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    Quote Originally Posted by sieg777 View Post
    I called John Duffy Insurance Brokers after reviewing your sticky earlier actually, and they quoted me at something like 3900, and it was an upfront fee with no option for payment terms. And yes, I am under my father's policy with Grey Power. Is that really my best bet though? I understand it will be a lot no matter what at this point, I am just trying to avoid a one pay deal... Thanks for the reply by the way :] Looking forward to contributing to the community as I get more experience with a motorcycle!
    Which company was he quoting you on? It's my understanding that Jevco now offers a payment plan (perhaps four instalments or something like that). You could try quoting with TD as well.
    I'm an Actuarial Analyst for a Major Canadian Insurance Company. I analyse claims patterns to determine overall rate changes, as well as relative premium differences by various risk characteristics (eg. age, experience, claims, convictions, usage, etc.)

    Unless it's private, please post insurance-related questions in the forum rather than sending me a PM.

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    Re: Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    Quote Originally Posted by VifferFun View Post
    Which company was he quoting you on? It's my understanding that Jevco now offers a payment plan (perhaps four instalments or something like that). You could try quoting with TD as well.
    When I was 19 (currently 20 turning 21 this upcoming May) TD Primmum insured me on a 2009 Kawi Ninja 250r for $3400 WITH a M1... I got my M2 Exactly two weeks after and my insurance dropped to $2500. I also had 1 minor ticket on my car no claims/accidents/etc etc (15 over speeding)

    At that time NO company besides TD would insure.

    Luckily Jevco is accepting us now
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    Re: Insurance for 20 Year Old M1 Driver

    So here's my info for your reference: I had G1 in 2008. I was 18 in 2010 and I got my M1 and M2(via safety course) in that summer. The best quote I got is $3500 - $3700 for a sv650 or a ninja 250. I decided to wait it out. So comes 2011, with 1+ year M1 I went with Jevco and paid $2400 in 3 installments on a sv650 (very good bike, planning to stick with it for a few years). This year, rate went up to $2700. Mind you that for the entire time (2010-now) I had 2 minor convictions on my abstract and the quote is only for liability + DCPD

    I guess the takeaway point is that for young riders like us SF is out of question and Jevco seems to be the best bet. This year jevco offers 6 installment option. you probably find out already that Jevco charges around 40% surcharge if you dont have m1 for a year yet, but imo it's worth paying since you have an entire riding season ahead of you!

    So ya, good luck finding an insurance and a good bike.

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