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    Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?


    Accused in fatal car crash granted bail

    cp24.comThu Apr 05 16:57:50 EDT 2012
    A 19-year-old charged in connection with a horrific crash that killed his friend on Tuesday has been granted bail.






    Police charge man in high-speed fatal crash


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    Flowers lay at the scene of a fatal crash that occurred on Mount Pleasant Road at around 2:35 a.m. on Tuesday, April 3, 2012.

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    A 24-year-old man was killed in a crash on Mount Pleasant Road, near Stibbard Avenue, on Tuesday, April 3, 2012. (CP24/Tom Stefanac)

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    One person was killed in a crash on Mount Pleasant Road, near Stibbard Avenue, early Tuesday, April 3, 2012. (CP24/Tom Stefanac)
    Alcohol and extreme speed are suspected in a horrific crash that left a young man dead and a second in police custody early Tuesday morning, Toronto police say.
    A sport utility vehicle was torn in half, scattering debris all over the road, and a passenger was killed when the vehicle crashed into a pole on Mount Pleasant Road, at Stibbard Avenue, at about 2:35 a.m.
    The passenger has been identified as 24-year-old David Chiang.
    After the crash, officers arrested vehicle's 19-year-old male driver at the scene. The driver, who was seen crying before he was placed in a police cruiser, suffered non-life-threatening injuries.
    Police said Oliver Karafa, of Toronto, is charged with impaired driving causing death, criminal negligence causing death and dangerous driving causing death.
    The Range Rover was travelling south along an S-curve at high speed when it veered off the road and struck a pole at the southwest corner of the intersection.
    The crash created a large field of debris, with pieces of the demolished vehicle being hurled almost a block away.
    Toronto police Const. Clint Stibbe told CP24 the driver and passenger were the vehicle's lone occupants.
    Mount Pleasant Road reopened between Blythwood Road and Sherwood Avenue, north of Eglinton Avenue East, at 11:30 a.m. The road was closed for hours to allow police to conduct an investigation at the scene.
    With files from CP24's Cam Woolley
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    Re: Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?

    I feel sorry for the guy that got killed from this rich kids stupidity.

    What's a harsher word to use than Screwed right about now.. for the accused of course? Because right now, aside with the serious charges he's facing from criminal negligence causing death, impaired driving causing death, dangerous driving causing death and driving while high above the limit; he also has to hand in all passports, not being able to leave ontario, not being able to consume alcohol, not being able to enter an establishment that serves alcohol, not being in the driver or passenger seat of a vehicle, and I'm sure theres a few more that were left out.


    I think Oliver Karafa would rather have Aids at this point.. I mean he's already been Screwed, right?
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    Re: Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ep1x View Post
    Police said Oliver Karafa, of Toronto, is charged with impaired driving causing death, criminal negligence causing death and dangerous driving causing death.
    From a legal standpoint, how can he face 3 charges for the same act?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EngineerJoe View Post
    From a legal standpoint, how can he face 3 charges for the same act?

    GTAM lawyers and insurance specialists, please provide your insight.

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    Re: Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?

    Quote Originally Posted by EngineerJoe View Post
    From a legal standpoint, how can he face 3 charges for the same act?
    easily, you do three things wrong in the criminal code with that one act and you will get charged accordingly.

    think of it this way in terms of HTA, you disobey a sign turning, during that turn you almost hit a pedestrian, you will get charged with unsafe turn and disobey sign.

    The only one of his charges which is doubled up is drive over 80 and impaired driving, its standard practice to charge both even though there basically the same and then the crown will proceed with one of them depending on the circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EngineerJoe View Post
    From a legal standpoint, how can he face 3 charges for the same act?
    3 different crimes, so 3 charges. same crash does not mean same "act". more like, 3 different acts that led to a crash.

    rich kids and their daddys' fast cars. should be mandatory that these kids take these fast cars to the track, they can obviously afford track days.
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    Re: Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?

    the sad part is he well do 5 years max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyRider View Post
    3 different crimes, so 3 charges. same crash does not mean same "act". more like, 3 different acts that led to a crash.

    rich kids and their daddys' fast cars. should be mandatory that these kids take these fast cars to the track, they can obviously afford track days.
    Don't think you can force someone to risk a $70K at a track day.

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    Just sayin..buddy was probably in the passenger seat yelling "Give'er dude!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich6969 View Post
    the sad part is he well do 5 years max.

    You think he will be given 5 years max ?

    Even if that is the case - look at the whole picture. This guys life is SCREWED.

    There is a stain that will be on his life forever.

    He will go to jail with all the ****ed up people, get beaten, treated like a girl.. he will have psychological breakdowns... there are too many negatives for a guy of his caliber to have their worlds caving in around them. If he's smart, he'll be using daddies money to teach himself some hardcore martial arts lessons , because once he's in the pen with all the big bubbas - he's no longer in Kansas anymore. ...............or maybe they'll just put him in PC.

    whatever the case is, I wonder how this guy will fall asleep tonight as he lay in his bed - U think he will wake up screaming in the middle of the night?
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    rich kid's dad will most likely get a really good lawyer and the kid will prob just get some probation/house arrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1x View Post
    You think he will be given 5 years max ?

    Even if that is the case - look at the whole picture. This guys life is SCREWED.

    There is a stain that will be on his life forever.

    He will go to jail with all the ****ed up people, get beaten, treated like a girl.. he will have psychological breakdowns... there are too many negatives for a guy of his caliber to have their worlds caving in around them.

    I wonder how this guy will fall asleep tonight as he lay in his bed? U think he will wake up screaming in the middle of the night?
    LOL.. no he won't. Daddy will show up with his high price lawyer and the kid will do 100 hours of community service.

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    Re: Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?

    Quote Originally Posted by geoff-9 View Post
    The only one of his charges which is doubled up is drive over 80 and impaired driving, its standard practice to charge both even though there basically the same and then the crown will proceed with one of them depending on the circumstances.
    You're exactly right, and I forgot about that. I guess I should have specifically asked how one could be found guilty of multiple charges for (what appears to be) the same act, but he hasn't been found guilty of anything yet so it's too soon to say.

    To what Rich6969's comment, it's been said that if you want to murder someone and get off "scott-free" (relatively speaking), use a vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnu View Post
    LOL.. no he won't. Daddy will show up with his high price lawyer and the kid will do 100 hours of community service.


    I know money talks, but that can't realistically happen, can it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1x View Post
    I know money talks, but that can't realistically happen, can it ?
    just think of OJ, then casey athony and she wasn't even rich.

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    dead body on the side of the road .. that's honestly ****eD
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    Re: Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?

    Quote Originally Posted by rich6969 View Post
    the sad part is he well do 5 years max.

    But with that justin bieber hair cut I'm sure he will be really sore after those 5 years
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    Re: Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ep1x View Post
    You think he will be given 5 years max ?

    Even if that is the case - look at the whole picture. This guys life is SCREWED.

    There is a stain that will be on his life forever.

    He will go to jail with all the ****ed up people, get beaten, treated like a girl.. he will have psychological breakdowns... there are too many negatives for a guy of his caliber to have their worlds caving in around them.

    I wonder how this guy will fall asleep tonight as he lay in his bed? U think he will wake up screaming in the middle of the night?

    Not it canada my friend... I am speaking from experience!!!! My ex brother in law commited the same crime and that Fat lawyer you see in the vidoe was his lawyer. He did not even do 5 years and trust me he didnt get sent to a bad *** jail like you are saying. The system if ****ed when it comes to this stuff....

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    Re: Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ep1x View Post
    GTAM lawyers and insurance specialists, please provide your insight.
    Manslaughter...

    Not to fuel the witch-hunt, but Oliver's Twitter profile before it was deactivated read: ""I love Jesus but ive learned alot from Satan."

    Rich kid or not, he's going to get punished.
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    Re: Land Rover split in half -- how did the driver manage to scathe free ?

    Quote Originally Posted by rich6969 View Post
    Not it canada my friend... I am speaking from experience!!!! My ex brother in law commited the same crime and that Fat lawyer you see in the vidoe was his lawyer. He did not even do 5 years and trust me he didnt get sent to a bad *** jail like you are saying. The system if ****ed when it comes to this stuff....
    True, the conviction rate for impaird driving is suprisingly low due to numerous factors which i wont get into.
    Plus if this kid does not have any previous convictions the sentance will be superlenient, Canada has a very second chance policy, or i should say 5th chance for most criminals.

    If theres no witnesses to his driving the dangerous driving charge would be a battle despite the forensic evidence present.

    I suspect the kid will get a lenient sentance, he may do a short jail sentance just because of the media hype over the case.

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