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    Chain drive in bath of oil

    Just reading up on BMWs latest scooters. Its a 647cc parallel twin.

    Seems to make sense to me. Curious, why a typical, modern motorcycle wouldn't benefit from this?

    Cost? Complexity?



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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    Should last 250,000 kms
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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    That cast chain case probably weighs a fair bit, and a lot of that weight is unsprung, too.

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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    Doesn't look any beefier than my 929's swingarm,LOL
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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    That looks like it would make chain inspection one major pain.

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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    Great idea lot less complex and lighter than a drive shaft with universals and a ring and pinion.
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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    I know that a motorcycle manufacturer somewhere actually sold a bike this way, many years ago. I can't remember exactly who or when, though.

    Edit: What the ... apparently Harley did this as recently as 1984.
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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    Yamaha had a 920cc v twin that had an enclosed chain, although I don't think it was oil bathed.
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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    On a scooter yeah, on a sport bike nah. The weight and movement of the oil would mess with stability IMO. Not to mention that a chain is a lot more likely to snap/fail under 100-200hp acceleration then on a scooter and id hate to see the repair bill if it did inside the swingarm.
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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    It looks like the swing arm pivot is the same as the sprocket centre line unlike most bikes, therefore the chain slack will remain constant with suspension movement allowing it to be adjusted relatively snug.
    If your 200 hp sports bike breaks its chain it will likely wad up and do some serious damage to your engine rather than simply fall off.
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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    It was oem for a few bikes many years ago.It's mostly about the ugly chaincase i think.
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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    You would have to use a non-oring chain for this to work best.

    I guess it would help with keeping the wear down on the sporckets...seems like you are adding more weight and complexity with this crap though.

    Is it that hard to just maintain your chain?

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    Why not just go shaft drive? Seal technology has vasly improved

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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    Quote Originally Posted by frekeyguy View Post
    Why not just go shaft drive? Seal technology has vasly improved
    It's BMW. They over engineer almost everything. Though husqavarnas division is probably manufacturing this it might actually be dependable !!! Lol

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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Tripletrouble View Post
    It looks like the swing arm pivot is the same as the sprocket centre line unlike most bikes, therefore the chain slack will remain constant with suspension movement allowing it to be adjusted relatively snug.
    This, plus the fact that the rear arm pivot point is the output shaft means the chain can be sealed completely (the chain cover would just require o-rings around the output shaft and rear axle).
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    Re: Chain drive in bath of oil

    Quote Originally Posted by frekeyguy View Post
    Why not just go shaft drive? Seal technology has vasly improved
    Less efficient, heavier, more costly.

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