frame sliders are not for crashing, they are for when (if your lucky) your bike tips over in your driveway gently, or at a stop sign. If your going more than 10 km/h expect them to be ripped off/destroyed along with various other bike components. Go to any track day, watch what the crashed bikes look like. I used to use them, but found they don't do much in a real crash.
Not saying don't use them, especially if your just getting started, just be aware of their limitations, thats all
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