Riding before course date (already registered)

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But here's a sweet video on countersteering that explains it better than any other I've seen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFm3h...e_gdata_player

I know they will explain this fully in the course but I figured I'd ask it here too -- I've seen/read a LOT on countersteering, and one point still confuses me. When they say 'push left to go left' or 'push right to go right', do they mean push down (or pull up) on that side of the handlebars or do they mean actually push it forwards a little bit (or pull it a little bit) to initiate the lean?

The video link above makes it seem like you just push down on the handlebars, which kinda makes sense based on what I saw in Keith Code's Twist of The Wrist II (DVD) as well -- since on that one they actually bolted bars to the nose/windscreen-area and countersteered with those while leaving the handlebars locked straight/untouched (so obviously those bars couldn't turn at all being bolted to the bike and not the forks).

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I know they will explain this fully in the course but I figured I'd ask it here too -- I've seen/read a LOT on countersteering, and one point still confuses me. When they say 'push left to go left' or 'push right to go right', do they mean push down (or pull up) on that side of the handlebars or do they mean actually push it forwards a little bit (or pull it a little bit) to initiate the lean?

The video link above makes it seem like you just push down on the handlebars, which kinda makes sense based on what I saw in Keith Code's Twist of The Wrist II (DVD) as well -- since on that one they actually bolted bars to the nose/windscreen-area and countersteered with those while leaving the handlebars locked straight/untouched (so obviously those bars couldn't turn at all being bolted to the bike and not the forks).

yeah it means push the bar a little down, your basically LEANING to turn (countersteering) instead of TURNING the handle bars but when you lean its as if your TURNING your handle bars the other way . . . once your over 15 km/h you'll see lmao you can do it on a bicycle going down hill

[conundrum]

yeah it means push the bar a little down, your basically LEANING to turn (countersteering) instead of TURNING the handle bars but when you lean its as if your TURNING your handle bars the other way . . . once your over 15 km/h you'll see lmao you can do it on a bicycle going down hill

Hmm ok, with it being warm this weekend I might break out the bicycle and try it lol. One other thing I read (I think it was in Lee Park's Total Control) was that after initiating the lean you then still do turn the handlebars (slightly) in the direction you want to go)? That's what confused me, in that if you do push the handlebars forward (or pull them) to countersteer, then as soon as you actually turn in the direction you want to go, wouldn't it pull it out of the countersteer/lean?

If all you do is push down (on right to go right or left to go left) then turn the bars slightly (turn to the right to go right and turn to the left to go left) as you would at low speed, just nowhere near as much, then stop pushing down and straighten the bars to come out of the corner, all this makes more sense lol.

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Hmm ok, with it being warm this weekend I might break out the bicycle and try it lol. One other thing I read (I think it was in Lee Park's Total Control) was that after initiating the lean you then still do turn the handlebars (slightly) in the direction you want to go)? That's what confused me, in that if you do push the handlebars forward (or pull them) to countersteer, then as soon as you actually turn in the direction you want to go, wouldn't it pull it out of the countersteer/lean?

If all you do is push down (on right to go right or left to go left) then turn the bars slightly (turn to the right to go right and turn to the left to go left) as you would at low speed, just nowhere near as much, then stop pushing down and straighten the bars to come out of the corner, all this makes more sense lol.

You're over-thinking this, which is the main problem with counter steering in general. It will make sense when you hop on the bike and just DO it.