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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowman View Post
    I know the posted limit is 100kph, but, in my experience, it's really 120kph. I drive the 401 alot, and I've gone through alot of radar traps at 120kph, and have never gotten pulled over.
    However, I have had a few tickets between 130kph and 140kph.

    I think, if the speed limit was raised, it would be strictly enforced.
    Exactly. Plus fines would be increased to make up for the increase in the baseline 100km/h to 120km/h. End result = no change.

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    Got my "like"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastar1 View Post
    Exactly. Plus fines would be increased to make up for the increase in the baseline 100km/h to 120km/h. End result = no change.

    Where's the Facebook dislike button?
    Honestly, that's hypocritical - if you currently drive at 120km/h they you are BREAKING THE LAW. Enough said?

    With the limit raised to 120-130, you can drive that fast legally.

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    Honestly, that's hypocritical - if you currently drive at 120km/h they you are BREAKING THE LAW. Enough said?

    With the limit raised to 120-130, you can drive that fast legally.

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    We do a lot of things that break the law every day. Are you seriously telling me this petition is to help people feel better about themselves when they're doing 120, and not about the populist outrage over speeding fines?
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    i like my gas mileage i get in my car, and i would rather see more focus put towards teaching the retards that live in my area to drive better...i wanna see tougher licensing, more training and a general belief over time that people should always want to be a smarter driver...most people have no clue they are operating a 2000lbs+ missile...

    cute 4th post by the way...

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    The day a FaceBook petition changes the course of a government is the day I will give up on the world.

    As for raising the speed limits, my answer is NO. One trip through Toronto at rush hour should be enough to ***** slap silly notions like that right outta your skull. Today's cars are capable of handling the increased speeds, but today's drivers are not.
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    Re: Increase Ontario 400-series Highway Speed Limit

    So who are you up against?

    1. Insurance companies who will insist that their policies were designed for the consequences of impacts at ~100km/h and that they will threaten to raise premiums because they are essentially rent-seeking parasites and an indirect provincial tax farming scheme, and not a real business.
    2. MADD, and the hysterical in general.
    3. The police, whose role as revenue collectors for the province makes them a stupidly powerful lobby.
    4. The slow, who include senior citizens and are a major voting bloc.
    5. The beta, who include readers of Now magazine, drinkers of almond milk, and other avowed cock-blockers.
    6. The medical profession, because injuries and permanent maimings are more rewarding to treat than fatalities, in spite of the implied increase in transplant availability.
    7. The engineers, because they don't understand economics.

    But have fun storming the castle!

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    Re: Increase Ontario 400-series Highway Speed Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by greg88 View Post
    You could be correct but in Texas that has not been the case at all:

    "TxDOT officials say that, by and large, actual highway speeds won't increase because the overwhelming majority of drivers tend to stay at a prudent pace based on the design of the road and the topography surrounding it. In other words, if 85 percent of motorists are currently driving 75 mph or slower on a road posted for 70, increasing the legal maximum to 75 mph won't mean that most drivers will reflexively begin going 80.
    The department says, for instance, that after the speed limit on I-10 west of Kerrville was raised to 80 mph a few years ago — under a different state law — 85 percent of drivers were clocked at 81 mph or less. Traffic fatalities on the 80-mph sections of I-10 and I-20 actually decreased in the three years after the change, the department said."
    And if that happened here I would be seriously happy. Unfortunately every day that I drive the highways as my commute I doubt such a result.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gummiente View Post
    Today's cars are capable of handling the increased speeds, but today's drivers are not.
    That is why I feel the same way. Too many people feel their skill greater than what it actually is. I would everyone in that category including myself.
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    Outside of the City the 100 km/h speed limit is redundant. The 401 between Courtice and Cobourg is wide and open, and the cops do patrol this area regularly from both the air and ground which is wrong.

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    Re: Increase Ontario 400-series Highway Speed Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayv View Post
    Outside of the City the 100 km/h speed limit is redundant. The 401 between Courtice and Cobourg is wide and open, and the cops do patrol this area regularly from both the air and ground which is wrong.
    How is it wrong that they patrol this area? As much as I like traveling at 120, I see their patrols as a good thing. Keeps us in check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat13 View Post
    How is it wrong that they patrol this area? As much as I like traveling at 120, I see their patrols as a good thing. Keeps us in check.

    You could spin out going at 5000kmh and the only thing you would hit would be cattle.

    100 km/h is far too slow especially as that road, the cars, and the drivers can all drive safely at a higher speed with this particular stretch of road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentlemanRacer View Post
    So who are you up against?

    1. Insurance companies who will insist that their policies were designed for the consequences of impacts at ~100km/h and that they will threaten to raise premiums because they are essentially rent-seeking parasites and an indirect provincial tax farming scheme, and not a real business.
    2. MADD, and the hysterical in general.
    3. The police, whose role as revenue collectors for the province makes them a stupidly powerful lobby.
    4. The slow, who include senior citizens and are a major voting bloc.
    5. The beta, who include readers of Now magazine, drinkers of almond milk, and other avowed cock-blockers.
    6. The medical profession, because injuries and permanent maimings are more rewarding to treat than fatalities, in spite of the implied increase in transplant availability.
    7. The engineers, because they don't understand economics.

    But have fun storming the castle!
    You sound like you have a hard life.
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    And not to sound like a broken record, there is no doubt the 400 highways were built to accept a higher max speed than 100 km/h.

    The oil crisis is over, but why are so many ppl against the increase.

    It's because we have poor drivers, we also have highway with no lane discipline.

    First step, increase drivers education, harder testing criteria, fix lane discipline, more policing focused on the road for bad drivers, not just speeders.

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    Re: Increase Ontario 400-series Highway Speed Limit

    Now, if it were to change the silly 80km roads to 100km then I'm with you.

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    Re: Increase Ontario 400-series Highway Speed Limit

    I'm with many here, it's a moot point. When I'm on the 400 series, I'm either stuck in traffic, or hoping that the ****** in front of me looks into his/her rearview and sees that there are actually vehicles who would like to pass using the left lane. Higher speed limits are going to lead to more self entitled drivers, poorer fuel mileage, and create havoc when incompetent drivers struggle to simply keep up with the flow.

    Another potential issue is merging. Highway on-ramps are already short. It's bad enough that every other driver who hops on the highway merges into 100km/h traffic doing 80 (serious pet-peeve). Imagine the kind of mess when people merge at that speed into 130km/h traffic? And don't simply suggest that people merge faster. Either they are nervous and afraid or refuse to run their 1.4L sedan with 4 passengers into the ground, so they simply won't.

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    Re: Increase Ontario 400-series Highway Speed Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by OpenGambit View Post
    You sound like you have a hard life.
    8...and OpenGambit, because he is thin skinned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentlemanRacer View Post
    8...and OpenGambit, because he is thin skinned.
    Must be tough waking up every day thinking of reasons why every group of people out there is somehow going out of their way to screw you over.
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    Changing the speed limit won't change a thing. It's 100 now and people do 120. Change it to 130 and people will do 150. It's our nature and habit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Last Boyscout View Post
    Changing the speed limit won't change a thing. It's 100 now and people do 120. Change it to 130 and people will do 150. It's our nature and habit.
    I doubt it. Maybe at first but for the most part when people realize they're going through $40 more in gas a week they'll lose interest in driving that fast and go back to the same speed they used to drive at.

    I know for a fact that if the speed limit went up to 120 I would still drive 110.

    Sit down and actually do the math. If you're on the highway for 60km, how much time do you save by doing 120 instead of 110? It's under 3 minutes.

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