|
|
Moderator
Nice! But too bad the class that my bike is decent in, is not running at Calabogie. Ah well, it'll be good for the 600 riders.
You'd have to detune that FZR of yours to make the 80 and under hp limit
Finally regional racing clubs are working together to provide a benefit to their customers, regional racers. It only took 3 years for people to talk to one another for their mutual financial benefit.
Dealer/Vendor
Not true just because you dont see it doesnt mean it doesnt happen. Celine asked us to do Calabogie months ago as they lost their shirt last year and I declined. I have attempted to have a working relationship with RACE for years only to be shot down by Gautier. Chris and I communicate regularly but he is an employee and cannot make calls and the owner has no vision. TFR is getting pressure from ASM and RACE had a tough year last season so this is a good move for both.Originally Posted by BBC
As for Bogie SOAR will never be there until changes are made.The track isnt safe is my first reason, the second being the cost. I suspect that RACE isnt contributing money its simply an exchange of events where TFR hopefully gets their numbers up and RACE gets extra TFR riders for their round. Wont work for SOAR as we would get no riders from Quebec and I cant in good conscience have a SOAR round at Calabogie.
I suspect that RACE will do better than TFR in this deal. The costs for bogie are outrageous and the costs to protect it are even more. Last year they put out 800 bales. Just for reference it takes 2500 for Mosport so 800 doesnt even come close (yes I said the same thing to Celine). (BTW its $3/bale) thats on top of the other costs.
I suggest anyone who wants to go better get there as I cant see this happening again.
Well there you have it folks.
Don't bother going it's all *****. Unless it's a SOAR event it's crap.
I think I'll still go to this dangerous piece of crap weekend anyway. It will be crap but I want to go.
Dealer/Vendor
As usual overreacting. The post I quoted suggested we dont talk. Thats not accurate. As I corrected that the next post will be "Why doesnt SOAR do it? " I posted before it came to that, is all.
But normal paranoia takes hold again and ......... as usual. I never said dont go. I simply put out there a little of the politics behind the scenes but I am sure you know waaaaaay more about this than me. Right? Cherrypicker knows all or so they think. If I had agreed to Celines proposal would RACE have done it? I doubt it.
I did the VIP day there in 06 before they opened as I was looking at doing SOAR there then and was invited by the owners. I was contacted in 09 about bringing SOAR there in 10 again by the owners. It didnt happen because of safety. It still wont happen for the same reason. Which is exactly what I told to Celine face to face (but we dont talk....).Thats my opinion. If you want to go then have at it. You are not the one signing the cheques and having to sleep at night making decisions for many (not just you)I am. I hope the event goes well. I really do believe it or not. I want both to do well and I want Calabogie to see that bikes are worth the effort and expense to make improvements. Its fine in a trackday not in a race (again my opinion). There are still guys recovering from PCSB years ago. Again my opinion but I am the guy that has to answer to families and insurance companies.How about you?
I have to ask why the hell you have to condemn my comments as some kind of slight to you, RACE, TFR,Pro6 etc? Does what I say mean that much? I have been told it means jack $$$$ and I dont know anything so why do you care what I post?
Go have fun. Helll people race IOM, Macau, Northwest 200 etc we all have our own limits and acceptable risk.. This is above mine.
Moderator
I didn't get that impression from that post at all. I get a "telling it like it is" impression. Note that if the arrangement is what I think it is, RACE won't be operating this weekend or be responsible for it in any way (and TF won't be operating the RACE weekend or be responsible for it in any way). Whole different ball game being responsible for it.
I'll probably go to this weekend, but knowing certain issues with that track, there are certain places that I don't want to push it too hard ...
Dealer/Vendor
Gary you are the one that started the sarcasm train. I was responding to the post that suggested that series communication is new. Its not. I never called the event crap, I was just posting why SOAR isnt involved (that would have been the next question as it has been over and over again).
I have a working relationship with TFR we talk regularly. I communicate with Chris regularly but cant get anything done because of Gautier. I hope the event goes well and all benefit, it really doesnt effect SOAR at all either way.
SOAR has always been open and people know they can reach me directly on GTAM. I post when I think I need to. In this case it was implied that series organizers do not work together and thats false.
As for other organizers not posting on forums, really? Celine posted a big one a year ago booting Pirelli from their events. Chris doesnt post anywhere, we have talked about that and he is just not a computer guy (his words not mine). I remember a certain national figure that dropped a pretty big bomb not so long ago.
I will post what I think needs to be said. Just for the record I have said these very things to everyone directly as well. I like to be transparent and let people know whats going on from the back as well as what they see. You can simply block my posts if you dont want to see them.
The track is a great track, the most challenging I have ever ridden. But I stand behind what I said safety wise. John Hamilton himself told a group of us that the track was never designed to have motorcycles on it. They only after the fact are trying to accommodate them. I think there is a very different level for a race as opposed to a trackday or a school. I hope that one day that I will feel comfortable taking SOAR there and who knows this may be a step in the journey. If the track can see a value in having racing events there maybe they will step up and push some runoff back. My feeling is that as long as they can sellout every weekend thats unlikely which places the burden on the organizers to try and compensate both in liability and expense.
I am sorry if I offended you, my nature is to tell it as I see it and that often comes across as abrasive. Once again go and have fun I am sure many will.
Moderator
Yes, I see that they have a less-than-80-hp class, but it doesn't directly cross over to any of RACE's classes, and I'd get stomped on by SV650's. I may do it anyway, we'll see.You'd have to detune that FZR of yours to make the 80 and under hp limit
Beef that 400 up for the weekend. There will be some 125gp and 250gp there for sure plus some SVs and who knows what else for the under 80hp. It's going to be a good time no matter if you podium or not. I'm going to race at that weekend. I'm not getting any younger.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks