Visiting the United States while on bail?

[DOHC1]

If someone is out on bail, are they legally allowed to enter the United States? Theres no bail condition that that says this, and both surities will be accompanying. The charge is assault.
Thanks!

[FiReSTaRT]

There's a good chance they'll ask you if you've ever been charged with something and even if the charges were dropped/dismissed, they'll ask you to explain yourself. They have better access to CPIC than our local services. If I were you, I'd stay away from the US until your indiscretion gets pardoned. They have no legal requirements to let any foreigners into their country. They could tell the Pope to GTFO and be within their rights.

[OpenGambit]

There's a good chance they'll ask you if you've ever been charged with something and even if the charges were dropped/dismissed, they'll ask you to explain yourself. They have better access to CPIC than our local services. If I were you, I'd stay away from the US until your indiscretion gets pardoned. They have no legal requirements to let any foreigners into their country. They could tell the Pope to GTFO and be within their rights.

err pardons don't do anything with regards or getting into the US. They dont' care if you have been pardoned.

[rafiki911]

This thread makes no sence...if someone is out on bail there are conditions to the bail such as promising not to leave the country. Whoever it is that is out on bail better make sure before finding out at the boarder...

[coyo]

err pardons don't do anything with regards or getting into the US. They dont' care if you have been pardoned.

If a pardon has been granted then the criminal record won't show the charge / conviction... smooth sailing.

This thread makes no sence...if someone is out on bail there are conditions to the bail such as promising not to leave the country. Whoever it is that is out on bail better make sure before finding out at the boarder...

Conditions prohibiting travel are quite rare actually. If the condition isn't listed then there's not a problem. However, as Firestart stated, if the USA doesn't want to allow entry, they don't have to. If said person is charged or convicted of "deceitful" offenses such as theft or fraud, the USA has shown it REALLY doesn't like letting those people in.

[rafiki911]

The point is how does someone get bail and not know the conditions???

[Scuba Steve]

If a pardon has been granted then the criminal record won't show the charge / conviction... smooth sailing.



Conditions prohibiting travel are quite rare actually. If the condition isn't listed then there's not a problem. However, as Firestart stated, if the USA doesn't want to allow entry, they don't have to. If said person is charged or convicted of "deceitful" offenses such as theft or fraud, the USA has shown it REALLY doesn't like letting those people in.

Wrong they still see the charge in their system and will not let you in pardon or not.

[REDBALLS]

Usually when you are released on a 'promise to appear' you are given a release form which detail's your conditions in which you must abide by (ie. keep the peace, refrain from illegal substances, do not leave Ontario). When you are released on a 'conditional sentence' you are given a conditional sentence and probation requirement form's which also detail your conditions (ie. keep the peace, 10 year weapons ban, seek counseling, visit probation officer, house arrest address, or curfew times, don't leave Ontario). When you are released on 'bail terms' you are given a release form which also details what you can and what you can't. Certain bail restrictions require you to surrender your passport, attend court dates, curfew. With every single form it will detail your restriction's. Even If you do not have travel restrictions you still may be denied at the border because the border officer doesn't want to let you in the country.

[coyo]

In AMERICAN records? Not a chance in the world. Once information is out there, it's out there.

A good point. If he'd taken care of it PRIOR to hitting the border he'd likely be fine. Now that they've had dealings with him in regards to it...

[Rob MacLennan]

A good point. If he'd taken care of it PRIOR to hitting the border he'd likely be fine. Now that they've had dealings with him in regards to it...

Whether or not he had crossed the border, they had the information.

[DOHC1]

Thanks for the replies guys, I'm in NYC right now. They scanned my passport, but didnt mention anything about charges. I haven't been convicted of anything, just charged (its pending a trial). I'm a dual-citizen (american and canadian), which is why I wasnt worried about the Americans not letting me in (they kinda have to..) ..I was worried about the Canadians not wanting me to leave.
Either way, things worked out. I'll update the thread if Canadians give me any trouble on the way back home.

[DOHC1]

Made it back to Toronto today, no issues at the border whatsoever

[Cat13]

Thanks for the replies guys, I'm in NYC right now. They scanned my passport, but didnt mention anything about charges. I haven't been convicted of anything, just charged (its pending a trial). I'm a dual-citizen (american and canadian), which is why I wasnt worried about the Americans not letting me in (they kinda have to..) ..I was worried about the Canadians not wanting me to leave.
Either way, things worked out. I'll update the thread if Canadians give me any trouble on the way back home.

On your way out you cross an American checkpoint not a Canadian. You pass a Canadian checkpoint on your way back.
I think they only reason you didnt have trouble is because of the dual citizenship.

[DOHC1]

I used my Canadian Passport both ways, my American one has been expired for 5+ years now. I find it weird that they didnt even mention it though

[toysareforboys]

On your way out you cross an American checkpoint not a Canadian. You pass a Canadian checkpoint on your way back.

Sometimes... They can do dual checks in/out at any time, they just usually don't. I got checked crossing at Lewiston "leaving" the USA by USA customs, and of course by Canadian customs upon "entering".

-Jamie M.

[Irocian]

Whether or not he had crossed the border, they had the information.

This exactly is correct. I get asked about somethig that happened 5 years ago even before there was a judgement made, just the fact of being arrested shows on their system don't believe me ask a few people i have crossed with and they will tell you.

My charges were by a ex trying to gain custody of our child and were dismissed but still get asked about it.