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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Quote Originally Posted by gcrouse View Post
    Another common problem. I would recommend a vfrness from tightwad over on vfrdiscussion. By all accounts it works and no more issues with burnt out wires. Tell him Gary sent ya
    oops sorry slowbird lol
    Ahh! Should I still look at replacing the stator and or R/R or just get a vfrness?
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Quote Originally Posted by VFR.CBR View Post
    The FH0122AA is a shunt type regulator,
    That was what I was looking for. I haven't been able to find a schematic. Thanks.

  3. #23

    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    so..need to know what to order

    stator and vfrness or reg/rec and vfrness?
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Update: Re-soldered the connections and replaced a blown fuse, now I only get a click from under the seat when I hit the starter. New battery time?
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Quote Originally Posted by silverbullet132 View Post
    Update: Re-soldered the connections and replaced a blown fuse, now I only get a click from under the seat when I hit the starter. New battery time?
    Throw the battery on a trickle charger first and see if it's recoverable, once it's charged up try starting it.

  6. #26

    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Battery is reading 17.6v sitting on my desk, swapped for one that reads 14.5v and the clicking noise is still there
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Whereabouts are you located? I've got something that might help you; a 1998-2000 VFR800 service manual.
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacLennan View Post
    Whereabouts are you located? I've got something that might help you; a 1998-2000 VFR800 service manual.
    PM'd
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Need someone to have a look at it...I am having absolutely 0 luck. Going to try to get a new battery tomorrow.
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Does anything turn on when the key is ON? Lights?

    Have you attempted a Bump start? All fuses are ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by silverbullet132 View Post
    so..need to know what to order
    stator and vfrness or reg/rec and vfrness?
    Get the Reg/Rec and the harness.
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Quote Originally Posted by silverbullet132 View Post
    Going to try to get a new battery tomorrow.
    The bike will start with the new battery. Keep a Voltmeter on the battery, when the Voltage gets over 15 Volts, turn off the engine. The Voltage may stay below 15 Volts at idle, take the engine to 4~5000 RPM.
    Disconnect the R/R at the red/black connector. Start the engine. Note the battery Voltage.
    Your R/R has burned out one or more of the SCRs and can no longer regulate the output.

    http://www.wdgah.net/VFR_RRFail.htm

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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Quote Originally Posted by slowbird View Post
    Does anything turn on when the key is ON? Lights?

    Have you attempted a Bump start? All fuses are ok?

    Get the Reg/Rec and the harness.
    All lights turn on signals work etc. Have not tried bump starting, and all fuses look ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by VFR.CBR View Post
    The bike will start with the new battery. Keep a Voltmeter on the battery, when the Voltage gets over 15 Volts, turn off the engine. The Voltage may stay below 15 Volts at idle, take the engine to 4~5000 RPM.
    Disconnect the R/R at the red/black connector. Start the engine. Note the battery Voltage.
    Your R/R has burned out one or more of the SCRs and can no longer regulate the output.

    http://www.wdgah.net/VFR_RRFail.htm
    Ah. So new battery R/R and vfrness? Anywhere more local then wiremybike that would have a vfrness?

    I should also note that jump starting it did not work.

    Edit: Just ordered VFRness, stator hardwire kit, and new R/R connectors (the one on my harness side was melted)
    EditEdit: Swapped the battery with the one from my v45 sabre (same voltage readings, starts the sabre fine) and still only get the click.
    Last edited by silverbullet132; 09-16-2011 at 02:13 PM.
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Changed the battery in my multimeter, it now reads 0.7-0.8 ohms on the 3 wires coming from the stator and 0 continuity on all 3. Battery also reads 12.5v now instead of the 17.5v it was reading before.
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    your still just getting the click?
    Quote Originally Posted by silverbullet132 View Post
    Changed the battery in my multimeter, it now reads 0.7-0.8 ohms on the 3 wires coming from the stator and 0 continuity on all 3. Battery also reads 12.5v now instead of the 17.5v it was reading before.

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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Quote Originally Posted by gcrouse View Post
    your still just getting the click?
    Have not hooked the R/R back up had to undo the soldering to do some testing:

    -Battery reads 12.75v
    -Leak tested, meter reads 0.8mA
    -The harness side of the R/R connector positives read 12.75v (positive lead on the red/white and common lead on the frame)
    -Continuity between the harness side of the R/R connector negatives and grounded on the frame

    This at least shows me the stator is ok for now, and the harness is ok. New R/R time while I wait for my vfrness and other parts to arrive
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Installed the FH0122AA with VFR.CBR's help, and diagnosed a bad starter motor (has a dead spot) so now on the hunt for a new one!
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Bad started motor or starter clutch?
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Quote Originally Posted by slowbird View Post
    Bad started motor or starter clutch?
    Starter motor, we would put bike into a high gear and rock the rear wheel back and forth until we felt the crank turn over then put it into neutral and try starting it. Sometimes it would work, sometimes would not.
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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Quote Originally Posted by silverbullet132 View Post
    Starter motor, we would put bike into a high gear and rock the rear wheel back and forth until we felt the crank turn over then put it into neutral and try starting it. Sometimes it would work, sometimes would not.
    ...and when you would try starting it would it go: *clack clack clack* ?

    Or just a single click?


    A common starting issue is caused by the starter Clutch and not the motor itself.

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    Re: Wierd problem with 5th gen VFR

    Only a single click.
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