Idling bylaw 1 minute

[stratofortress]

Did a search for this one...didn't see any posts regarding this.

What if it takes on average 3 minutes for your bike to warm up? I really don't want to ride it before it is ready.....is there an exemption for motorcycles? (non-injected, City of Toronto)

[Tiggy]

dude i wait longer idling at red lights sometimes. I dont thing theyll be after you for letting your bike idle for a warm up period.

[haisam10]

Useless law

[Rob MacLennan]

There is no exemption from this bylaw, unless you're in a select group including police, fire, etc.. Even BOATS are not exempt.

[promac]

I can't see police enforcing that in all but the most extreme circumstances.

[Rob MacLennan]

There are occasional blitzes, in which they tag anyone that they see.

[Baggsy]

Could you not just shut the engine off, wait a minute, then start her up again, to be legal and get a full warm up?

[turbodish]

Could you not just shut the engine off, wait a minute, then start her up again, to be legal and get a full warm up?

Why would you even need a "full" warm-up anyways? I've got an older carburated bike. I get on it, start it in the garage, push it back it out of the garage while still sitting on it, and I'm on my way. I doubt that takes more than 30seconds. I just ride it easy for the first few minutes while it's getting fully up to temperature.

[FiReSTaRT]

Why would you even need a "full" warm-up anyways? I've got an older carburated bike. I get on it, start it in the garage, push it back it out of the garage while still sitting on it, and I'm on my way. I doubt that takes more than 30seconds. I just ride it easy for the first few minutes while it's getting fully up to temperature.

Another one of those rare cases where I fully agree with turbo's premise (even though I'm not so sure about the bike ownership thing)

[Rob MacLennan]

Could you not just shut the engine off, wait a minute, then start her up again, to be legal and get a full warm up?

If it isn't running, then it's cooling off.

[Baggsy]

Yes, but you run it longer than you let it cool off.

Could you just turn it off and right back on again or is that a grey area of the law that could go either way?

Some older bikes take longer than 3 minutes to warm up.

[turbodish]

Some older bikes take longer than 3 minutes to warm up.

True, but is that the same as saying that they are incapable of being operated until fully warmed up? You probably don't want to push the bike hard until everything is warmed up, but running it gently shouldn't cause any harm to the engine and tranny, and it should also help bring the bike up to temperature a bit quicker. It's not like you need to worry about a windshield defroster or heater to start functioning before setting out.

[nakkers]

I probably have one of the most notoriously cold blooded bikes. I can start and go pretty much at any kind of temperature. I adjust the choke for the first few blocks as it warms up. It's warm within a few blocks.


No issues what so ever. And I generally only do this in the morning at home.

Otherwise, start it, put on helmet/ear plugs etc. By the time I'm ready sit on the bike, she's pretty well ready to go. 2 minutes tops.

[FiReSTaRT]

My carburated bike is 20-21 years old.. I fire it up under full choke, put on my lid, put on my gloves, push in the choke and take it easy for the first couple of minutes. The whole procedure (minus the taking it easy part) takes under a minute. If your bike won't go after a minute of idling, you need to do some wrenching on it.

Where this law pisses me off are turbo'd vehicles. Some might take a bit more idling to cool down sufficiently. There should be an exception made in those cases.

[caboose483]

I don't think starting it should be an issue. It's not like you're going to be riding it hard right away, like a few others have said.. just take it easy for the first few minutes then everything is warm so let'er fly.

I'd be concerned for anyone driving a turbocharged car. My Talon TSI had a turbo-timer. Depending on my driving it would idle the car for up to two minutes even after i turn the ignition off, get out, arm the security system and walk away. I think the average idle time was about 1m15s.

[SkyRider]

when bike not fully warmed up u can still ride just keep the rev low, dont redline it.

[canuck]

its more of a taxi law when they are waiting for pick ups. do you think soccer moms waiting for their kids at school give a ****. their kids are breathing that air. cops could easily hang out in front of schools. its more of a downtown deal. not an issue for bikes.

[unL33T]

It's so dumb. Think of all the people idling down the 401/404/403 every day because of how over capacity the roads are. Fixing that would reduce pollution WAY more.

[FiReSTaRT]

It's so dumb. Think of all the people idling down the 401/404/403 every day because of how over capacity the roads are. Fixing that would reduce pollution WAY more.

One measure costs money while the other makes money.. Guess which one will be chosen

[Rob MacLennan]

I don't think that our roads are as badly over capacity, as you might think. Part of the problem is all of the morons who think that they are more important than everyone else, force their way ahead in traffic, and then bog EVERYONE down. If we could get some traffic enforcement for things other than speed, I think that you'd find commute times would come down a fair bit.