Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

[short stop]

Seems every 6 hours the cost goes up by about $100 million. Coulda sworn yesterday morning it was ~900 million, midday it was ~1 billion, and by evening closer to 1.1 billion.

My coworker had the great idea that we should either partake in the exploitation or protest its costs. Why do we have to pay this; is this taxpayer funded; and what are the benefits?

We can set up 2 different groups of protesters: the bat-**** crazy anarchists and the ****** off taxpayers!

For that much money, we could have built some subways or expressways. Or at least, the initial outlay of such before the mysterious ballooning costs take effect.

Well, technically it's a different level of government. But, yeah. With a ballooning national debt, this kind of unnecessary overspending seems ludicrous.

[zeekat]

They should have the summits on Baffin Island ... you won't need as much security (what anarchist would go up there) and the isolation may focus the minds of these 'leaders' to actually accomplish something rather than more photo-ops.

[eastcoast_gsx]

- They plan party
- They invite guests to party
- Some unrulies are expected (as with all parties)
- ~1~ billion is put aside for party planning
- Lots of fancy toys are purchased
- Screw the neighbors if party gets out of control, they are on their own
- Even though the 1 billion is theirs to begin with.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/arti...ed-damage?bn=1

These party planners are seriously ****ed in the head...

[roadtoruin]

ya think the new 77 or more security cameras installed downtown or the 4 new sonic cannons will be dismantled and returned after the summit??

[zeekat]

ya think the new 77 or more security cameras installed downtown or the 4 new sonic cannons will be dismantled and returned after the summit??

How about we send the sonic cannons to Caledon after the party is over ... could be fun

[CruisnGrrl]

They should have held this party up at Alert...

[Norge]

who is ultimately responsible for this? Harper? "conservative" my ***

[roadtoruin]

I'm sure whatever party in power would have bent over for these international banker meetings. But yea conservatives are anything but IMO.

[LiNK666]

Any idea how much other countries pay for the G20 summits?

[mxs]

Not the ultimate answer to your question, but here is something ... It looks like the canadian is rather close to the top, definitely not the lest expensive. The key is that they stuffed BOTH summits down our throats at the same time. I am not sure this has ever been done elsewhere before. We are so dumb getting ourselves into such a financial trouble at the worst possible time ....

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Summits are Expensive
These summits have become increasingly expensive for taxpayers, who are essentially paying for free publicity for politicians. The just-concluded L'Aquila G-8 summit is estimated to have cost the Italian government a minimum of $300 million.[14] (The price tag for the 2008 G-8 Summit in Japan exceeded half a billion dollars.[15])
Any time a President of the United States travels, American taxpayers must fork over a bundle. In 2006, the hourly operating cost of Air Force One alone was more than $55,000, according to a U.S. House of Representatives report.[16] That does not include operation costs for the other aircraft: the "minimum domestic travel package for the president consists of one Boeing 747, which serves as Air Force One, one back-up dummy plane and one C17 cargo plane."[17] Nor does it include the salaries and travel costs of the hundreds of Secret Service, military, and civilian employees (and their equipment) that are involved in any presidential travel.
Foreign travel by U.S. Presidents is vastly more expensive than the domestic trips measured in the House of Representatives report and requires extensive security and logistics support from the already stretched-thin U.S. military. According to a 2001 study by the non-partisan National Taxpayers Union (NTU), during his eight years in office, "Bill Clinton made 54 trips during which he racked up 133 visits to foreign nations" for which the total price tag exceeded "half a billion dollars."[18] President Obama is already on track to "shatter" Clinton's travel record, having made foreign trips to 17 countries over 22 days in his first six months in office,[19] and so appears also on track to break the one billion dollar barrier for presidential travel during his term.
The mounting costs of endless summits--hundreds of millions of dollars each year--are an increasing burden on world taxpayers. Simply put, there have been too many meetings and too few accomplishments (other than efforts to increase government intrusiveness into the global economy). The constant meetings are also keeping the heads of state away on travel instead of at home, where they could be doing the political heavy lifting and real work that will be needed in order to make the changes necessary to restore growth. At the very least, as the global financial crisis continues to ease and the world economy stabilizes, there should be no more than one "G" meeting per year.
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Hosting G20 summit 'will cost taxpayers £80million'
Jonathan Prynn
02.04.09

Hosting the G20 summit will cost Britain's economy £80million, more than four times the Government's official estimate.

As well as the bills for costs such as police overtime, food, hotel rooms and goodie bags for visiting dignitaries, there will also be a big knock-on effect for businesses in London, according to an economic think tank's calculations.

Foreign office minister and G20 special envoy Lord Malloch-Brown estimated the cost to the taxpayer at only £19million insisting it would be "worth it". But Douglas McWilliams, head of the Centre for Economics and Business Research, said this was a huge underestimate as it does not include the impact on the private sector.

He said: "First, transport is disrupted we estimate a cost is lost productivity from greater time spent in transport because of increased security and shut roads of £28.2 million.

"And if a fifth of the workers in central London have to go home an hour early for fear of disruption this would cost a further £24.4million." He added that the taxpayer would likely have to fork out another £10million for all the months of preparation and concluded: "It is unlikely that Londoners and the UK taxpayer will get away with a bill of much less than £80 million."

Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, said: "An incredible amount of taxpayers' money is being spent on Gordon Brown's political posturing. While he is jet-setting around, the rest of the country want genuine help such as lower taxes."

The Government has insisted that the gathering has been a "budget" summit and Lord Malloch-Brown said: "If [the summit] is the signal of restored confidence in the world economy it'll be worth every penny."

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[82Seca750]

another billion of our money gone...it's like a cruel joke

the private sector woulda had a video conference with a few grand worth of electronics and called it a day

[eastcoast_gsx]

another billion of our money gone...it's like a cruel joke

the private sector woulda had a video conference with a few grand worth of electronics and called it a day

Good ole' Rex. Says it like it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OusdsPv5XwA

[Icbones]

So I my be going off on a different tangent here, but are we sending soldiers off to Afghanistan to create a democratic government that is similar to our government where they spend a $billion and limit citizens right to travel freely to their own homes during economic meetings? I mean Canada has a history of sending and sacrificing soldiers to protect and restore democracy in other countries. Yet here, every level of government is so quick to enact draconian measures that in many cases our unconstitutional in the name of safety and security. Seems like a waste of Canadian lives to me.

[jibbijib]

Welcome to Nazi Germany.


Or wait, is it Facist Italy?


Fantino - Mussolini?

I'm getting confused.

[LiNK666]

Not the ultimate answer to your question, but here is something ... It looks like the canadian is rather close to the top, definitely not the lest expensive. The key is that they stuffed BOTH summits down our throats at the same time. I am not sure this has ever been done elsewhere before. We are so dumb getting ourselves into such a financial trouble at the worst possible time ....

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Summits are Expensive
These summits have become increasingly expensive for taxpayers, who are essentially paying for free publicity for politicians. The just-concluded L'Aquila G-8 summit is estimated to have cost the Italian government a minimum of $300 million.[14] (The price tag for the 2008 G-8 Summit in Japan exceeded half a billion dollars.[15])
Any time a President of the United States travels, American taxpayers must fork over a bundle. In 2006, the hourly operating cost of Air Force One alone was more than $55,000, according to a U.S. House of Representatives report.[16] That does not include operation costs for the other aircraft: the "minimum domestic travel package for the president consists of one Boeing 747, which serves as Air Force One, one back-up dummy plane and one C17 cargo plane."[17] Nor does it include the salaries and travel costs of the hundreds of Secret Service, military, and civilian employees (and their equipment) that are involved in any presidential travel.
Foreign travel by U.S. Presidents is vastly more expensive than the domestic trips measured in the House of Representatives report and requires extensive security and logistics support from the already stretched-thin U.S. military. According to a 2001 study by the non-partisan National Taxpayers Union (NTU), during his eight years in office, "Bill Clinton made 54 trips during which he racked up 133 visits to foreign nations" for which the total price tag exceeded "half a billion dollars."[18] President Obama is already on track to "shatter" Clinton's travel record, having made foreign trips to 17 countries over 22 days in his first six months in office,[19] and so appears also on track to break the one billion dollar barrier for presidential travel during his term.
The mounting costs of endless summits--hundreds of millions of dollars each year--are an increasing burden on world taxpayers. Simply put, there have been too many meetings and too few accomplishments (other than efforts to increase government intrusiveness into the global economy). The constant meetings are also keeping the heads of state away on travel instead of at home, where they could be doing the political heavy lifting and real work that will be needed in order to make the changes necessary to restore growth. At the very least, as the global financial crisis continues to ease and the world economy stabilizes, there should be no more than one "G" meeting per year.
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Hosting G20 summit 'will cost taxpayers £80million'
Jonathan Prynn
02.04.09

Hosting the G20 summit will cost Britain's economy £80million, more than four times the Government's official estimate.

As well as the bills for costs such as police overtime, food, hotel rooms and goodie bags for visiting dignitaries, there will also be a big knock-on effect for businesses in London, according to an economic think tank's calculations.

Foreign office minister and G20 special envoy Lord Malloch-Brown estimated the cost to the taxpayer at only £19million insisting it would be "worth it". But Douglas McWilliams, head of the Centre for Economics and Business Research, said this was a huge underestimate as it does not include the impact on the private sector.

He said: "First, transport is disrupted we estimate a cost is lost productivity from greater time spent in transport because of increased security and shut roads of £28.2 million.

"And if a fifth of the workers in central London have to go home an hour early for fear of disruption this would cost a further £24.4million." He added that the taxpayer would likely have to fork out another £10million for all the months of preparation and concluded: "It is unlikely that Londoners and the UK taxpayer will get away with a bill of much less than £80 million."

Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, said: "An incredible amount of taxpayers' money is being spent on Gordon Brown's political posturing. While he is jet-setting around, the rest of the country want genuine help such as lower taxes."

The Government has insisted that the gathering has been a "budget" summit and Lord Malloch-Brown said: "If [the summit] is the signal of restored confidence in the world economy it'll be worth every penny."

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Canada = epic fail

[Flashmonkey]

Canada = epic fail

LOL yea...Canada's like that slow kid at school that everybody makes nice with just so they can get to his dunkaroos.

Well guess what...come this June that slow kid is having a party and errbody's invited!!! Apparently there's gonna be a bouncy castle and a magic show

[nfq]

LOL yea...Canada's like that slow kid at school that everybody makes nice with just so they can get to his dunkaroos.

Well guess what...come this June that slow kid is having a party and errbody's invited!!! Apparently there's gonna be a bouncy castle and a magic show

HAHHA LOL golden!

Somehow I'm thinkin we went to the same schools......haha

[FullMotoJacket]

I guess Turbodish won't be around then.

He'll be off posting in the anarchist forums about how the police should be given the right to taser anyone withing 10 kms of the city limits.

[caboose483]

LOL yea...Canada's like that slow kid at school that everybody makes nice with just so they can get to his dunkaroos.

Well guess what...come this June that slow kid is having a party and errbody's invited!!! Apparently there's gonna be a bouncy castle and a magic show

Aww man, now i want Dunkaroos!

[short stop]

But...but....it is imperative that Harper demonstrates to the world the total awesomeness and power derived from his helmet-hair..!