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    Spools Snapped Off...

    My Left spools snapped off so i can't put it on a rear stand. How do i get the snapped off bolt out so i can replace it with new spools? The bolt has been glued in with some blue locktite. The bolt doesn't seem to have enough sticking out to use a wrench and just pull and twist it out.

    How much would it cost if i were to go to the dealer and have them do it?

    Thanks

    P.S If i can't take the spool out, can i just put a piece of wood under it with a front stand?

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    Use a small center punch and hammer, tap it at right angles in the counterclockwise direction to get it out.

    I can do it if you need help, I'm in Aurora
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    You will be looking at around $100-or so to get that bolt out.It would depend if it comes out easily with a bolt extractor or not.If its a high grade bolt, its a pain to drill out.its not rocket science, it just takes some time and patience to get out.

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    I usually don't disagree with other techs as we all have our own way but $100....really??? Maybe if it's torque extremely tight with gobs of loc-tite but even if you have to drill and extract it's not that much work.

    I've been unfortunate enough to have been removing broken/snaped/grinded bolts for over 20 yrs. I have a few ideas on how to approach.
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    Re: Spools Snapped Off...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I usually don't disagree with other techs as we all have our own way but $100....really??? Maybe if it's torque extremely tight with gobs of loc-tite but even if you have to drill and extract it's not that much work.

    I've been unfortunate enough to have been removing broken/snaped/grinded bolts for over 20 yrs. I have a few ideas on how to approach.
    around $100 if it needs to be drilled out. Free hand drilling isn't too fun.if it just needs to be extracted out and comes out easy with a bolt extractor and heat...just a couple of bucks.i'll agree with you, my approach wouldn't work for you, yours wouldn't work for me

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    If you can get at it with a small Dremmel cutting wheel, without damaging the swingarm, cut a notch in the broken end, put a big flat-head screwdriver in the notch, whack it a couple of times with a hammer to break the seized threads, then back the bolt out. Fastest way that I know.
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    Re: Spools Snapped Off...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacLennan View Post
    If you can get at it with a small Dremmel cutting wheel, without damaging the swingarm, cut a notch in the broken end, put a big flat-head screwdriver in the notch, whack it a couple of times with a hammer to break the seized threads, then back the bolt out. Fastest way that I know.
    Thats seems like the best option for me but i dont have a dremmel cutting wheel. I'll try to find someone that does. and Thanks for everyones input.

    I will post some pictures after i get back from school to see the best approach.

    Thanks again.

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    Don't forget to apply some heat, if threadlock has been used on the bolt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I usually don't disagree with other techs as we all have our own way but $100....really??? Maybe if it's torque extremely tight with gobs of loc-tite but even if you have to drill and extract it's not that much work.

    I've been unfortunate enough to have been removing broken/snaped/grinded bolts for over 20 yrs. I have a few ideas on how to approach.
    Most shops charge $80 an hour + tax, and as simple as this job seems, it does usually take alot of time...Maybe not a full hour, but I canr see any local shop doing this for anything under 1/2hrs of labor, unless its more of a favor for a good customer...

    I wouldnt pay that much, but I can see shops charging it...

    Personally I would drill a hole in the middle of the bolt, and use the biggest extractor I could to thread it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyP636 View Post

    Personally I would drill a hole in the middle of the bolt, and use the biggest extractor I could to thread it out...
    +1
    I just did this for a M8 SHCS that had the head broken off. Just get a good drill bit, take you time drilling and then use an extractor.Works good and only costs just a few bucks for materials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyP636 View Post
    Most shops charge $80 an hour + tax, and as simple as this job seems, it does usually take alot of time...Maybe not a full hour, but I canr see any local shop doing this for anything under 1/2hrs of labor, unless its more of a favor for a good customer...

    I wouldnt pay that much, but I can see shops charging it...

    Personally I would drill a hole in the middle of the bolt, and use the biggest extractor I could to thread it out...
    I guess I should have clarified that I wasn't talking shop rates but DIY rates. You're right most shops have at least 1/2 hour charge just to get in the door.

    I popped one out of my GSXR two weeks ago, took about 4 minutes. It wasn't seized or crossed, just broken off flush. but those are the easy ones I guess....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I guess I should have clarified that I wasn't talking shop rates but DIY rates. You're right most shops have at least 1/2 hour charge just to get in the door.

    I popped one out of my GSXR two weeks ago, took about 4 minutes. It wasn't seized or crossed, just broken off flush. but those are the easy ones I guess....
    I was under the impression Frekeguy was talking shop/dealer rates because of her initial post

    "How much would it cost if i were to go to the dealer and have them do it?"

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    Re: Spools Snapped Off...

    Here are the pictures

    http://barwo.com/images/photo1.jpg

    http://barwo.com/images/photo2.jpg

    It seems theres not enough sticking out so i guess i'll have to use a bolt extractor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyP636 View Post
    I was under the impression Frekeguy was talking shop/dealer rates because of her initial post

    "How much would it cost if i were to go to the dealer and have them do it?"
    Correct, my bad. carry on
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    Re: Spools Snapped Off...

    how did it snap off?

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    Re: Spools Snapped Off...

    Quote Originally Posted by drawmatic View Post
    how did it snap off?
    Lowside.

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    Re: Spools Snapped Off...

    Or you could use those wide pads that go under swing arm instead forks that go on spools.
    My rear stand came with both...

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    Cut it off and the other side too. STock ones suck anyways. Pitbull has nice strong ones you can weld on for steel and alum swingarms for $18 each.
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    Re: Spools Snapped Off...

    Quote Originally Posted by omnivore View Post
    Cut it off and the other side too. STock ones suck anyways. Pitbull has nice strong ones you can weld on for steel and alum swingarms for $18 each.

    Cut what off? The stands i have have interchangeable arms but no matter what i still want to remove the bolt and put new spools or rear sliders.

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    Re: Spools Snapped Off...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sushii View Post
    Here are the pictures

    http://barwo.com/images/photo1.jpg

    http://barwo.com/images/photo2.jpg

    It seems theres not enough sticking out so i guess i'll have to use a bolt extractor.
    is it just me or does the bolt look twisted/pulled out at an angle?

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