Who owns the beach?? Crown property?

[sighless]

i recently found a spot near my new house, where i can drive down a secluded road that puts you right onto the beach of lake ontario..

As far as i know, the beach would be crown property wouldnt it??

would it be a safe bet that you can probably ride there?

[Joely]

beaches are not crown property all the time - they can be privately owned

[skip]

Within a couple meters of the water is but the beach its self it depends. Some is crown, some is private down to the water edge. Access may be municipal, crown or private.

[canuckwr250]

Im sure you will get a ticket either way lol

[Xhumeka]

Im sure you will get a ticket either way lol

Exactly - even crown land owned beaches usually prohibit any motorized vehicle access.

[turbodish]

As far as i know, the beach would be crown property wouldnt it??

would it be a safe bet that you can probably ride there?

http://www.tinycottager.org/legal/legalhistory.html

The first major test case of the Crown's ownership of shoreline property was decided almost thirty years ago. In 1970, Mr. Justice Stark of the Supreme Court of Ontario, held in the trial of Walker et al v. the Attorney General (Ontario) that where one of the boundaries of the land granted by a Crown patent is to be a boundary of water, then that boundary is at the water's edge unless the grant reserves in clear and definite words a space between the lands granted and the water boundary. Thus, Walker owned his property to the water's edge of Lake Erie in the Township of Bertie, near Fort Erie.

[matthew]

The problem is, what is the waters edge? It has seasonal variations due to winter freezing and spring run off

[turbodish]

The problem is, what is the waters edge? It has seasonal variations due to winter freezing and spring run off

The water's edge is simply the water's edge at any given moment. High water line or low water line is irrelevant.

[sighless]

there is no signs posted for motorized vehicle access on the beach im speaking of, its not an overcrowded beach you would find near any city.. just simply a dirt road out in the country which ends on the sand... i was out there a few days ago and found atv tracks, i was hoping to see someone local to the area so i could ask if he's seen anyone out on bikes.. but the place was deserted..

[turbodish]

there is no signs posted for motorized vehicle access on the beach im speaking of, its not an overcrowded beach you would find near any city.. just simply a dirt road out in the country which ends on the sand... i was out there a few days ago and found atv tracks, i was hoping to see someone local to the area so i could ask if he's seen anyone out on bikes.. but the place was deserted..

If you're talking about beaches anywhere near the Bowmanville area, there is no "Crown" land there.

[FullMotoJacket]

there is no signs posted for motorized vehicle access on the beach im speaking of, its not an overcrowded beach you would find near any city.. just simply a dirt road out in the country which ends on the sand.

The tree falling in the forest analogy comes to mind. If there's no one there, there's no one to complain. I used to live at Wendake Beach on Notawasaga Bay. I would do wide open, 5th gear passes along the shoreline on my KTM from Nov.-Mar. without any complaints. Then again, I was one of 6 people living there year round between Bluewater and Balm beaches, and the others didn't care.

[sighless]

the end of courtice road.