LED Turn Signals (Electronic Flasher Relay)

[Jag_V4Ape]

Hey, does anyone know which Electronic Flasher Relay is required for a 09 ZX6R?

I bought some LED rear plate signals off ebay and I'm not sure which "EFR" is required...

Would like to get something reasonable and cheap.

[Spizzak]

Why don't you just use your existing relay?

[djltoronto]

Why don't you just use your existing relay?

cause he bought some LED's VIA ebay

[woodzee]

Any brand will do just order/get the one that fit's your bike most local shops can order you the correct one.

And to answer the second question. The stock flasher relays are looking for more resistance in the line to trip the flasher portion of the relay. OEM signals use a standard incandescent bulb which is higher resistance. Once you switch to LED's the resistance is significantly lower which makes your signals flash too fast. If you were to change to all your signals you wouldn't see anything flash at all. Buy changing to an aftermarket LED flasher the build in resistance in the relay which slows the signals down to normal speed.

[Jag_V4Ape]

Any brand will do just order/get the one that fit's your bike most local shops can order you the correct one.

And to answer the second question. The stock flasher relays are looking for more resistance in the line to trip the flasher portion of the relay. OEM signals use a standard incandescent bulb which is higher resistance. Once you switch to LED's the resistance is significantly lower which makes your signals flash too fast. If you were to change to all your signals you wouldn't see anything flash at all. Buy changing to an aftermarket LED flasher the build in resistance in the relay which slows the signals down to normal speed.

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Thanks for explaining to these guys. I guess I'll checkout how much shops are charging for these.

[djltoronto]

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Thanks for explaining to these guys. I guess I'll checkout how much shops are charging for these.

Wal-mart, Can tire, and Princess auto all carry electronic flashers... FYI

[Jag_V4Ape]

Just bumped across this one.

http://www.customled.com/products/fl...sher_relay.htm

Looks promising.. Not bad since its $20 bucks.

Anyways, thanks guys!

[djltoronto]

Motovan has one fo $7.99, says it works with 1 - 4 bulbs..

OP, are the front signals LEDs as well?

[Jag_V4Ape]

Motovan has one fo $7.99, says it works with 1 - 4 bulbs..

OP, are the front signals LEDs as well?

No, the front are the stock OEM ones. I like how Kawi has those.

[frekeyguy]

What are you trying to do? accomplish?

[djltoronto]

What are you trying to do? accomplish?

I assume he's trying to correct the fast blink rate!

[stevestang]

i have a integrated rear LED and flush mount leds up front, so how many flasher relays would i need to correct the flash rate?

[djltoronto]

i have a integrated rear LED and flush mount leds up front, so how many flasher relays would i need to correct the flash rate?

Not sure if this is a serious q or not?
All vehicles have 1 flasher relay. So you would need just one.

[stevestang]

Not sure if this is a serious q or not?
All vehicles have 1 flasher relay. So you would need just one.

sorry it was serious, i wasnt sure, i somehow thought you needed 1 relay per light, wired in inline. So thanks for clearing that up.

[djltoronto]

sorry it was serious, i wasnt sure, i somehow thought you needed 1 relay per light, wired in inline. So thanks for clearing that up.

You might need one load simulating resistor per light wired in parallel with the LEDs in order to use the OEM flasher relay.

[dcx135]

I have exactly the same set up (Flushmount LED, Integrated Tailight LED). The stock relay doesn't process the signal correctly, hence you need electronic relay. I had used resistors but one of them burned out (they don't last long and create excessive heat, etc.)

I looked at the EFR's at Canadian Tire and Part Source and they have the generic EFR's for between $10-20. HOWEVER, they are NOT play and play for sportsbikes.

For the same money, I ordered a plug and play EFR from Custom Dynamics.



You just have to locate your flasher and the unplug the old one and replace it with the new one. On my '06 R6, it's under the tank - pain in the butt!

Good luck!

[Spizzak]

You could just add a resistor...

[Jag_V4Ape]

You could just add a resistor...

DOCX just explained why resistors are bad, and he's right. Found alot of heat on those messed up products online. They're cheap for a reason.. EFR's are the way to go!

[djltoronto]

DOCX just explained why resistors are bad, and he's right. Found alot of heat on those messed up products online. They're cheap for a reason.. EFR's are the way to go!

that's cause most people try to get away with using severely undersized resistors that aren't even rated to be able to dissipate the heat from the load they will be subject to!

I agree that EFR are the way to go... but load resistors, if done right are not a problem.


Typical signal bulb is 26 watts.
Thinking you can dissipate 26 watts of heat with a 10 watt load resistor = imminent fail. Even if you factor in the approximate 50% duty cycle. - that resistor is gonna get HOT!

rant over - EFR = best solution.

[woodzee]

I have exactly the same set up (Flushmount LED, Integrated Tailight LED). The stock relay doesn't process the signal correctly, hence you need electronic relay. I had used resistors but one of them burned out (they don't last long and create excessive heat, etc.)

I looked at the EFR's at Canadian Tire and Part Source and they have the generic EFR's for between $10-20. HOWEVER, they are NOT play and play for sportsbikes.

For the same money, I ordered a plug and play EFR from Custom Dynamics.



You just have to locate your flasher and the unplug the old one and replace it with the new one. On my '06 R6, it's under the tank - pain in the butt!

Good luck!

ooh you got the trick one the standard one will also work just fine at only $14.95

http://www.customdynamics.com/trick_...rd_DOT_Flasher