Goodbye 125cc GP Smokers.

**toybm** · 08-15-2010, 10:21 AM

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Official: Moto3 to replace 125cc

At a meeting of the Grand Prix Commission during this weekend's Czech Republic Grand Prix at Brno, it was confirmed that the 125cc class - the only two-stroke category remaining - will also be replaced by four-strokes from 2012.

Unlike Moto2, the four-stroke class that replaced 250cc at the start of this year, the new Moto3 championship will not have a single engine supplier.

125cc is the last category remaining from the inaugural 1949 World Championship season.

The statement read:

"Application 2012

"The 125cc class will be replaced by the Moto3 class.

"The basic technical rules of this class are:
- single cylinder 250cc 4-stroke engines with a maximum bore of 81 mm.
- each engine should last for 3 races minimum and cost not more than 10,000 € (final cost will be announced)
- each manufacturer if required should be ready to supply a minimum of 15 riders.

"This proposal has been agreed by the majority of MSMA."

From Crash.net

**Chaos** · 08-16-2010, 09:25 AM

that was inevitable.

**dvu3** · 08-16-2010, 12:58 PM

NO!! I just bought a Honda RS125. Since it is now an obsolete machine, I have no use for it.

I will sell it for $1 to the first person who asks

**Tonto** · 08-16-2010, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by dvu3

NO!! I just bought a Honda RS125. Since it is now an obsolete machine, I have no use for it.

I will sell it for $1 to the first person who asks

I'll take it!

**Jia** · 08-17-2010, 09:42 AM

I hear in the states GP Mono is starting to get really popular since you can buy complete bikes from Honda/Moriwaki dealerships and probably other shops. GP Mono seems to be replacing the two stroke 125cc classes. It will most likely start picking up here in Canada as well once there is a source to purchase these bikes/frames, and I think it will be the standard route for the series organizers to have this class for the youngans.

**john bickle** · 08-17-2010, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jia

I hear in the states GP Mono is starting to get really popular since you can buy complete bikes from Honda/Moriwaki dealerships and probably other shops. GP Mono seems to be replacing the two stroke 125cc classes. It will most likely start picking up here in Canada as well once there is a source to purchase these bikes/frames, and I think it will be the standard route for the series organizers to have this class for the youngans.

Hmmm, guess you sucessfully removed people's heads from their @$$

**Metastable** · 08-17-2010, 09:57 PM

Dunno - I have no experience with GPMono, but from what I hear those engines just aren't very good at taking the abuse from racing, which the two strokes do very well.

What ever happened to all the clean burning 2-stroke technology that was suppose to be on the horizon?

**john bickle** · 08-17-2010, 10:13 PM

Honda has the 250 Moriwaki they tendered out. It will be at Indy for a support class. Tried to get them up here two years ago for a support race with the CAN-AM but parties had their head stuck. THe Moriwaki has a huge leap on all the others and as soon as Honda announced it you new 125 would be replaced by the 250 class.

**CBRJOHN** · 08-18-2010, 09:09 AM

With stock 250cc 4 stroke MX bikes making about 33hp off the showroom floor and about 40hp in race trim I can only imagine what the factory Moto3 bikes are going to make but I don't see 50hp as out of the question. Durability will be a whole other question.

**john bickle** · 08-18-2010, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by CBRJOHN

With stock 250cc 4 stroke MX bikes making about 33hp off the showroom floor and about 40hp in race trim I can only imagine what the factory Moto3 bikes are going to make but I don't see 50hp as out of the question. Durability will be a whole other question.

Honda is allready on their 3rd year of development,,,they'll last.