Lean angles

**fastar1** · 08-03-2010, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by MotoStark

You think this guy knows how to ride?

(stock bike, stock suspension, stock street tires, even has the centerstand still attached!)

That's an interesting pic on many levels. What else do you know about the picture, where'd you get it?

**MotoStark** · 08-03-2010, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by fastar1

That's an interesting pic on many levels. What else do you know about the picture, where'd you get it?

I've had that pic on my computer for a couple of years now, and I'm still mesmerized every time I view it. All I know about this pic is that its a 2007 BMW F800S being ridden by an Italian journalist. Haven't been able to figure out who "Special" is. Maybe a bike mag?

I had to throw this pic in this thread, as most of the pics are of guys with their sport bikes, or professional racers. This bike is NOT quite a sport bike.

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**ungrateful_son** · 08-03-2010, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by caboose483

Long track turn 10.

I pick up my knee about the same time I let off the brakes, about one lap in five i'll still hit the turtle with my knee, then drop it back down onto the pavement after the turtle.

I don't like that corner, that turtle is gigantic.

Maybe they should call it a tortoise :P

**Kiss.Ferenc** · 08-03-2010, 08:44 PM

This guy was leaning pretty good a Cayuga Aug 1st, dont know who he is though.

**toybm** · 08-03-2010, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Kiss.Ferenc

This guy was leaning pretty good a Cayuga Aug 1st, dont know who he is though.

Is it still a repost if it's in the same thread? That pic was posted earlier in this thread and many disagree with you.

**doozerdave** · 08-03-2010, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by MotoStark

You think this guy knows how to ride?

(stock bike, stock suspension, stock street tires, even has the centerstand still attached!)

Originally Posted by Brian P

Is the objective while you are riding the bike:
(A) Drag knee or elbow (that photo shot), or
(B) Go as fast as possible around the corner.
(snip...)
In the photo of the BMW a couple posts up, the rider isn't making any particularly great effort to hang off the bike ... he's just leaned wayyyyy over. Note that rider's entire upper body is shifted off to the side. Knee isn't sticking all that far out. (There isn't room for it to stick way out; the ground is right there.)

Don't worry guys, I wasn't trying to say that moto-journalists don't know what they're doing, I just always laugh when see their exaggerated photo ops.

Especially when you open the mag and see them doing "the real thing". They're probably just having fun, lucky buggers. haha...

**doozerdave** · 08-03-2010, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by caboose483

Long track turn 10.

I pick up my knee about the same time I let off the brakes, about one lap in five i'll still hit the turtle with my knee, then drop it back down onto the pavement after the turtle.

I don't like that corner, that turtle is gigantic.

The left before the hairpin? I do the same thing. Tap my knee down, lift over the turtle (sometimes brushing it) then put my knee back down after (I quite enjoy that corner actually). Sometimes drag my knee on the turtle on the previous right if I get in tight enough, and do the lift thing in Allen's too. Maybe if I see Jack in one of those corners with his camera I'll try to stick my elbow onto the turtle.

**Andreas** · 08-03-2010, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by toybm

Is it still a repost if it's in the same thread? That pic was posted earlier in this thread and many disagree with you.

we never said it was the best body position, we just thought the bike was leaned over quite far, it being a wide R1

**fastar1** · 08-03-2010, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by MotoStark

I've had that pic on my computer for a couple of years now, and I'm still mesmerized every time I view it. All I know about this pic is that its a 2007 BMW F800S being ridden by an Italian journalist. Haven't been able to figure out who "Special" is. Maybe a bike mag?

I had to throw this pic in this thread, as most of the pics are of guys with their sport bikes, or professional racers. This bike is NOT quite a sport bike

Do you happen to know which track?

**MotoStark** · 08-03-2010, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by fastar1

Do you happen to know which track?

Ask these guys... www.specialmag.it It's their photo and their journalist.

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**Brian P** · 08-03-2010, 11:04 PM

It's probably a track with a really coarse, gritty surface almost like coarse sandpaper ... tons and tons of grip.

That BMW F800S might not officially be a sport bike, but it might as well be. I had a rental F800ST last year and found it to be a really good, flickable, narrow, light bike - perfect for riding in the Alps. Stock suspension was pretty soft, but that's a rear shock and a set of fork springs away from being solved. Didn't stop the bike from being very easy to chuck around. The S model may have different suspension settings.

**fastar1** · 08-04-2010, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by MotoStark

Ask these guys... www.specialmag.it It's their photo and their journalist.

Aha! Vallelunga, thanks.

This one is a great shot too, he's got sparks coming off his boot!
http://www.motoblog.it/galleria/big/...-bmw-f-800-s/1

**Grimmy** · 08-04-2010, 06:34 AM

Suspension setup is KEY. Having quality components, even sometimes stock suspension bits, properly set up will allow for good feedback and response from the bike. Then it's all a matter of being smooth.

Body position is important, but there are many styles. Some hang off like monkeys, some not. Some people are tall and lanky, and some shorter. From what I've seen, tall and lanky means dragging elbows, shorter persons its not common.

Me, from a trackday a few years back on my GSXR-1000. That bike had a near perfect setup. My riding position is fairly upright, and I am a shorter rider.

I've dragged the belly pan a few times. On a Fabi RACE weekend, I got black flagged, because it was thought that something was hanging off my bike in turn 1. Turns out it was the exhaust tinging across the track at the apex of the turn.