Lean angles

[KTM250SX]

Realistically speaking, on a modern track/race bike with proper track/race tires, how far can the bike be leaned without loosing it?
Is it possible to come close to this?:



Before I installed rearsets on my bike I would use the pegs scrapping as the indicator that I was leaned to the max. Now with higher pegs I feel that my tires (pirelli diablo slicks) might let go before I touch any hard part... There is not 1mm of "chicken strip" left on the tires but that may not mean that I cannot go a little further...

Opinions? comments?

[Rayzorman1]

No problem if your last name is Rossi on a factory spec M1

[spinto]

there's also camber to the track....check out these pics!! of our local guys

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/mult...lery2/main.php

[reciprocity]

I've dragged my elbow in race conditions at a few tracks, first time was at Mt.Tremblant in 2004.

I didn't really know what the hell was going on, I thought my leathers were loose.

[KTM250SX]

I've dragged my elbow in race conditions at a few tracks, .

That's cool! I also wnat to drag my elbows but i have very short arms...
I guess it helps if your riding style is like Spies.
Do you remember what turn(s) at Tremblant? 8?

[reciprocity]

short arms.

LOL,

yep, it was turn 8

[rishkid]

don't lie spud you know you fell off when you were dragging your elbows lets not start getting these kids hopes up LOL

I've dragged my elbow in race conditions at a few tracks, first time was at Mt.Tremblant in 2004.

I didn't really know what the hell was going on, I thought my leathers were loose.

[reciprocity]

***** pullleeese!

[rishkid]

your quick for a biggish guy though i have to admit

***** pullleeese!

[KTM250SX]

short arms.

LOL,

It's true!
this is the lowest I can get my elbows and it is still at least a good 5-6 inches away from touching...

[rishkid]

finally the truth has been told thumbs up to KTM250SX

It's true!
this is the lowest I can get my elbows and it is still at least a good 5-6 inches away from touching...

[reciprocity]

It's true!
this is the lowest I can get my elbows and it is still at least a good 5-6 inches away from touching...

your arms are a lot longer than mine are.

[KTM250SX]

your arms are a lot longer than mine are.

...which brings me back to my original post: how much further could I lean without crashing...

[Nimbus]

Realistically speaking, on a modern track/race bike with proper track/race tires, how far can the bike be leaned without loosing it?
Is it possible to come close to this?:



Before I installed rearsets on my bike I would use the pegs scrapping as the indicator that I was leaned to the max. Now with higher pegs I feel that my tires (pirelli diablo slicks) might let go before I touch any hard part... There is not 1mm of "chicken strip" left on the tires but that may not mean that I cannot go a little further...

Opinions? comments?

Yes, just about any sport or SS bike with good tires, dry and clean pavement, will go down until parts start scraping before losing it. I'm surprised you even had to ask, thought it was a given..
Of course if you lay on it too hard and soon coming out it will break out on you, but that too is just physics. So just keep the body parts off the pavement and avoid leaves, gravel and other debris and ignore your pansy senses that are giving you the false impression it's sliding out on you.

[georgy]

1. It looks like there is positive camber
2. The chicane is also raised a couple of inches

[Fiery254]

1. It looks like there is positive camber
2. The chicane is also raised a couple of inches

You say that like he's cheating!

I suppose everyone saw the gyroscope(?) cam shots from Laguna Seca Sunday? Scared the crap out of me, positive camber or not.

[fastar1]

That's not lean angle.

THIS is lean angle...

[ungrateful_son]

That's not lean angle.

THIS is lean angle...

I never knew Lorenzo was a fan of Tim Judge



Though I have a sinking suspicion only one of them successfully landed the trick...

[georgy]

You say that like he's cheating!

I suppose everyone saw the gyroscope(?) cam shots from Laguna Seca Sunday? Scared the crap out of me, positive camber or not.

I'm sayin every bit it helps

[caboose483]

...which brings me back to my original post: how much further could I lean without crashing...

With proper suspension setup and tires, it's you as the rider and hard parts on the bike that limit lean angle.

I know a few people who can drag case covers.

Something i've noticed with the kids who hang off a lot is that they'll open their grip on the inside grip so they can move their shoulders farther off the bike. I'm not very good at this.