Reply With QuoteOriginally Posted by SlowNLow
You're using what ifs to chastize me for using what ifs? Ok.
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I would want the Doc there five minutes ago, but there's no way I would want the doc to kill, or injure someone else at the same time. You are dealing in "what ifs" and there are an infinite number of those, and an infinite number of answers... and where does that get ya?
You're using what ifs to chastize me for using what ifs? Ok.
The same thing I'd say if you hit my son/daughter/wife/girl friend/mother/father when you were speeding on your motorcycle.
You may now climb up on your soapbox and vociferously claim you NEVER speed, and besides, YOU'RE always in complete control.
Cardiologist shouldn't be speeding at excessive speeds
Cop should give him the benefit of the doubt and check out his story once he reaches the hospital (ya that means actually doing a bit of police work, not revenue generation)
No emergency = throw the book
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How about, "That's why we have a society, rather than a free-for-all. So that we can mitigate the safety and needs of one, against the safety and needs of all."?
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The surgeon could have gone 10km over the limit in the 40km zone to save himself some time without getting pulled over by a cop. I'm not even sure the route he took, maybe the Bayview extension? If so then he could speed downtown at about 80kmh until hitting Queen/King/River/whatever.
With the current laws in place he simply doesn't have the legal right to speed. I'm not saying that it's not something that should be addressed, but in the meantime he should realize that he could probably get to the hospital faster by driving "legally" (10-20kmh faster than posted limits depending on where you are).
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Do I need to look up instinct and want on dictionary.com then post the results for you? Society may deem that you don't get your way or aren't entitled to it, but unless you're Mother Theresa, you're going to damn well want it. 4.000 years of civilization is not going to over rule 4 million years of evolution without a fight.
Last edited by FullMotoJacket; 01-12-2010 at 08:02 PM.
How about just fill out the damn ticket already! It takes the whole of 2 minutes to fill it out! NOT ten. Fill out your dang notebook on your own time, not mine or a doctor who is visibly eager to leave in a hurry.
Heck, if it was me, I'd walk back to the cruiser and tell him to mail me the ticket and my license and then I'd leave.
Excellent point. Again, ****** example of discretion. The usual display of arrogance.
And get nailed for driving without a licence and maybe street racing if you also fail the attitude test.
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Only if I need to post the meaning of "society." I may have to, at that.
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"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde
Too much of common sense involved. A lot of people here assume that there's a speeding cardiologist every night in GTA ... LOL Poor cop, it was a tough situation and he went by the protocol.
I wonder how would he sleep at night if the patient died. I know I wouldn't.
Give it up Brian, it ain't that easy in today's society. Look at the opinions here, I bet most think that the cop acted rationaly.
And how do you know how long it takes? Are you a cop? Every ticket is the same? The police do fill out their notebook on their own time, and not while they have you stopped... really shows how much you know about procedure now doesn't it????
Of course the cop acted rationally... he did exactly as he was supposed to do... stop speeders. You weren't there, I wasn't there, so you have no idea what transpired, or what the Doc said...
Ohhhhhhhhhh, you can't have it both ways... you can't give the Doc the "license" to speed, and then ***** them out when they kill someone ... are you saying "ohhhh, yes, they can speed to an emergency, but they MUST do it safely."? Give me a break....The same thing I'd say if you hit my son/daughter/wife/girl friend/mother/father when you were speeding on your motorcycle.
You may now climb up on your soapbox and vociferously claim you NEVER speed, and besides, YOU'RE always in complete control.
Actually, it's the 4000 years of "civilization" that lets us overcome those 4 million years of evolution, without so much as a thought... that's why society "works"... think about it for a second.
Nope, no what ifs in what I posted... I said I would want the Doc there 5 minutes ago, but I sure as hell wouldn't want him/her killing anyone... point out the "what if" there would ya? No? Didn't think so.You're using what ifs to chastize me for using what ifs? Ok.
You are right... the arrogance of some of the people on this site is ASTOUNDING.... What I suggest you do, instead of whining about it, is quit your job, get hired by a police force, and then do the job the "way it should be done." No? If you whine and complain about something and do nothing to change it, then stop whining and complaining.
Last edited by SlowNLow; 01-12-2010 at 11:17 PM.
That's all I need to hear.
Kinda describes how our duly elected representatives of society passed Bill 203 to mitigate the needs of one, against the safety and needs of all. Oh wait, you vehemently opposed to THAT one. I guess that's where "Morally Ambiguous" comes in to play. You change your mores to suit yourself (along with the rest of the hypocrites bragging about their high powered machines in their sigs while vilifying the doc).
"But no amount of pleading or explaining would deter the officer from issuing the physician a $300 ticket, said Michael Oscars, Halstrom's longtime partner."
He was so worried about his patient that he contested the ticket during the stop? Tick, tock, good doctor. Arguing with cops is a waste of time.
"The doctor arrived a little later than he wanted to be, very upset, very angry because he had encountered a police officer," Oscars recalled."
This man performs high-stakes cardiac surgery and gets flustered by a speeding ticket? Hope his hands weren't shaking at the injustice of a minor inconvenience. Mind you, the mistakes would have to be pretty bad for the self-regulating College to even acknowledge it.
I guess when you can't contest what someone says, you resort to this.... LMAO... Truly pathetic I tell ya.
So what your saying is that because I have a car, or a bike, that is capable of going 190 mph, I am not allowed to vilify someone for speeding? LMAO.... That's somewhat idiotic don'tcha think? So by your logic, because I own guns, and they are capable of killing someone, I cannot berate someone who HAS killed someone with a gun? Great logic you got there.
Last edited by SlowNLow; 01-13-2010 at 01:31 AM.
Nah, I just can't take anything someone who proudly displays a #3 sticker in their back window says seriously.
If you speed, you have no right to complain about someone else speeding. Why is that such a hard concept to grasp? (hint: here's where you tell me you don't speed......or only speed responsibly, and putting those vehicles in your sig is bragging about perceived wealth, not the speeds you routinely do in them)
Wait, there's that pesky #3 sticker rule again. Nevermind.
Last edited by FullMotoJacket; 01-13-2010 at 06:50 AM.
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