Licensing

[hoyster09]

I am interested in getting into riding, as some of my family members do. Only problem is my mom won't let me as her brother actually was killed when a car hit him on his bike. What I was wondering is when I turn 18, will i be able to do all the licensing without a parent's consent, including the M2 course, as I will be a legal adult at the time?

[Waldo]

I was in a similar situation. Except my uncle survived fortunately, albeit with permanent (but not severe) brain damage.

Best advice I can give you is slow down, wait until you're 18 to see if your fascination with motorcycles is still strong.

Your mom is not out to get you, you need to understand that. The death of her brother obviously caused her severe emotional trauma, and seeing her son go near a motorcycle may be unbearable for her.

Reason with her calmly, don't argue. Take all the precautions to try and show her you're serious and responsible. Buy full gear, insurance, and the bike with your money (even if they want to buy the gear for you). That'll show them you're making a responsible decision and you're serious about this, not just making an impulse buy.

With that said, you'll still be able to get licensing from the age of 16. You don't need parental consent, just the money to do it.

As frustrating as it may be to reason with your mom calmly, just remember how hard it must've been for her to lose her brother, and don't let a stupid crotch rocket get in the way of your relationship with your mom.

Hope this helps. Ride safe

[bear22099]

I am interested in getting into riding, as some of my family members do. Only problem is my mom won't let me as her brother actually was killed when a car hit him on his bike. What I was wondering is when I turn 18, will i be able to do all the licensing without a parent's consent, including the M2 course, as I will be a legal adult at the time?

You don't "need" her consent now. And going out any getting all the gear first will not show her you are being responsible, it will just piss her off more. She already thinks the whole idea is being irresponsible, no amount of backdooring will change that.

If you want to live in her house, play by her rules. Nothing will make a mother dig her heels in further than defying her. Wait a few years, and gently work on her. My mother was the same way, took 3 years of hints, nudges, and slow exposure to more and more bike type things. BTW, pointing out the stunting stuff is not they way to go either. In the end, my mother even went to the dealership with me when I purchased the bike (someone had to drive the car home).

[hoyster09]

Thanks guys, both of your strategies are logical and reasonable. Just as a clarification though, if I were to get my license, for both the M1 and taking the 3 Day M2 course, I do or do not need a parent signature to allow me to take them?

[Waldo]

Thanks guys, both of your strategies are logical and reasonable. Just as a clarification though, if I were to get my license, for both the M1 and taking the 3 Day M2 course, I do or do not need a parent signature to allow me to take them?

Again you don't need it. But when you actually want to buy a bike, you'll need your parents, unless you buy it cash. Also, your insurance is gonna be THROUGH THE ROOF till you're 21 anyways, so I'd wait if I were you.

Again, buy your gear first and show her your responsible. Wear it around the house every so often. This will NOT piss her off. Very few mothers can resist the:
"*sigh* I wish I had a bike so bad, I'll just have to settle for gear right now"

When she asks about it, reply "don't worry mom, I know you don't want me on a bike." LOL works every time.

I don't know how I should feel giving you tips to guilt-trip your mother, but its better than you straight up defying her. Take care bud.

[hoyster09]

Haha guilt trips work so well on my mom, so maybe I'll try that out! Just as a last question, does anyone know how much the M1 licensing and M2 course cost around?

[Gnu]

The death of her brother on a motorcycle makes it a hard sell for you to ride a motorcycle. Have you considered getting an off ride bike first to show her her that you can ride a motorcycle and not get killed? I took that approach to "soften up" my mom's opinions of motorcycles. If she's OK with an off road bike, consider getting a dual sport as it will transition to the road without changing anything.

[hoyster09]

Thats funny you say that thought cause she actually has rode dirt bikes as a kid, so she is ok with those. Just not as much street bikes.

[Ninjabunny]

To take the course (which is what he is asking) you DO need parental consent under 18...when you're 18 and over you don't, just a contact person in case of emergency.....see "Liability" here:

http://www.ridertraining.ca/policies.html

[americrack]

The death of her brother on a motorcycle makes it a hard sell for you to ride a motorcycle. Have you considered getting an off ride bike first to show her her that you can ride a motorcycle and not get killed? I took that approach to "soften up" my mom's opinions of motorcycles. If she's OK with an off road bike, consider getting a dual sport as it will transition to the road without changing anything.

It does not matter if she thinks that you can ride and not get killed. Even if you were an amazing rider like the pros, there are still uncertainties that you can't avoid. Drunk drivers, street racers, etc. Just wait and do your research. It will show your mom that you are really interested. But don't push it on her. And as for the 'getting gear' theory, it kinda works.

Haha guilt trips work so well on my mom, so maybe I'll try that out! Just as a last question, does anyone know how much the M1 licensing and M2 course cost around?

The M1 Licensing cost around 20$ and the M2 course cost about $400. I took my rider training course at RTI. Very good motorcycle school.
www.ridertraining.ca

[knowledge]

My parents don't agree with this, and I did it anyways.

They stopped me the first time and I could only stay mad at them for a month (lol). I agreed to get one year of driving experience in a car before trying again. If you know you're going to get the bike in the next 2 years, I say get the licence now. With Jevco's preferred rate (after 1 year of holding the licence) you can save a little bit.

I guess it all comes down to how bad you want it. Honestly...everyone's gonna know someone who died or is paralyzed waist-down from a motorcycle accident. Every time someone found out that I was saving up for one & serious about getting it, they would go into the story of how something tragic happened to a friend or acquaintance of theirs.

In my case, I was lucky enough that my parents understood that working towards short-term goals is what keeps me motivated (my grades dropped, I was less happy, etc.) and they still don't approve, but at least now they understand.

My parents were right though. As perceptive and quick-learning as I am...it still would've been a lot more dangerous. My year of driving has given me some pretty good experience, I can read drivers and anticipate dangerous/risky situations with more than enough time to distance myself/speed up/brake. Maybe I would've survived & learned it all if I got the bike last year instead...but then again, maybe I wouldn't have.

You could always take the course with a helmet rental, garden gloves, a jean jacket, and jeans. It would save you some money in case it horribly backfired & your m2 would be good for 5 years...

Thanks guys, both of your strategies are logical and reasonable. Just as a clarification though, if I were to get my license, for both the M1 and taking the 3 Day M2 course, I do or do not need a parent signature to allow me to take them?

RTI has a waiver that your parents have to sign. I'm not sure about the other ones, but I figured I'd help you cross that off your list. But in all honesty, if my parents didn't sign it - I would've forged a signature or something (disclaimer: I wouldn't recommend you to do that)

[DaFrEnCh-TiCkLeR]

Go buy a dirtbike tomorrow

Ride that like a responsible adult and your mom will understand why you want to move the street later

You'll never get the fear out of your parents it's just nautre. Educate them on the subject and prove to them that you are capable of being responsible and move from there.

Get them to be on yoru side, it's allot easier then fighting them. If not wait ti'll your 19, move out and get it done on your own.

My 2 cents

[IXFe]

I am interested in getting into riding, as some of my family members do. Only problem is my mom won't let me as her brother actually was killed when a car hit him on his bike. What I was wondering is when I turn 18, will i be able to do all the licensing without a parent's consent, including the M2 course, as I will be a legal adult at the time?

Yes.
.... and you can vote too! oh, and drink legally in Manitoba and some other provinces too, I hear.

[Ninjabunny]

Go buy a dirtbike tomorrow

Ride that like a responsible adult

Is that even possible??!

[DaFrEnCh-TiCkLeR]

Is that even possible??!

Abosutely






























Not

I should of added, dont break your neck or something catchy like that lol

[Kokla]

Dude, your uncle died. Your mom can't see her brother anymore and since he died on his bike...

Basically, your between a rock and a pornstar's wang.

[CruisnGrrl]

she has no problem with dirt bikes? get a dual sport. get one that looks more dirt than street like a tw200 though you may want to wait til you are 18 so you can get the licencing out of the way with no hassles